01-01-2009, 11:19 AM
I am looking at a one time cross country move, renting a uhual and towing my focus is about $3500 - $4500 with gas/accommodation, etc.
Towing a class one hitch trailer is about $400 - $1400 with gas/accommodation.
Obviously I'd much rather get rid of all my furniture, pack up my main needs and go for it - BUT even though I was able to find a hitch online to purchase how could I hook up the tail lights?
Also u-haul seems to want to place with with a cargo trailer 4x8 instead of 5x8 (weight issues) My FF curb weight is 2600lbs and they say for a 5x8 it has to be 2700lbs - can I do anything to change that? Would it be safe to take a 5x8? - I'd like the added height for a ft of my mattress's on the bottom and pack the rest with boxes.
and is this a good idea? To tow with my ff about 5500km one way? How much damage would I do?
01-01-2009, 11:26 AM
its not a very good idea. I assume you will be going over some mountians somewhere and that put a lot of strain and the trany uni body.
01-01-2009, 11:30 AM
no mountains... going the other way. completely flat for about 4000km and mildly hilly for the other 1500.
thank you, I had hoped it could be done! But I love my car and actually need it to work when I get there...
01-01-2009, 11:34 AM
why not have a friend drive the fofo out there and rent the uhaul! or con one of your parents into it.
01-01-2009, 11:39 AM
The uhaul is about $3500 vs trailer at $400 - was weighing my options :) The extra to haul the car is only $200 on top of the uhaul truck...
I already played this game a few times with my parents and they weren't too thrilled with it. [angel] I like to move... previously I had no real tied down life though and would just cross country on the bus with my clothes and my G4 and set up wherever I ended but now I have stuff... and kitties.
01-01-2009, 11:46 AM
for the savings of not renting a uhaul tuck you could load up the focus and buy new mattress when there. having a ZX5 you should have a ton of room. do you have a roof rack?
01-01-2009, 11:52 AM
I do not have a roof rack.... I will certainly consider buying one though.... how much can it conceivably hold?
I guess my main problem now is while I don't care too much about the furniture it took me about 7 years and moving all over the place to finally accumulate this much stuff and it would suck to start from absolute zero again. Although I guess that's what happens when you chose to move... hrm :)
I was actually thinking of just loading the car, but when we went camping just that stuff alone filled it.... am I a shitty packer?
01-01-2009, 11:57 AM
According to the owner's manual, you can tow up to 1000 lbs., if you don't put too much junk inside the car. This is excerpted from my 2007 manual:
Refer to the following chart to determine how much weight your vehicle
Model Passengers/Luggage load - lb. (kg) Maximum trailerweight - lb. (kg)
3–door 5/827 (375) 630 (286)
4/677 (307) 780 (354)
3/527 (239) 930 (422)
2/377 (171) 1080 (490)
1/227 (103) 1230 (558)
4–door and 5–door 5/827 (375) 585 (265)
4/677 (307) 735 (333)
3/527 (239) 885 (401)
2/377 (171) 1035 (469)
1/227 (103) 1185 (538)
Wagon 5/827 (375) 500 (227)
4/677 (307) 650 (295)
3/527 (239) 800 (363)
2/377 (171) 950 (431)
1/227 (103) 1100 (499)
This chart is based on the specified vehicle at a maximum GCW (Vehicle Weight + Trailer Weight) equal to 4,300 lb. (1,950 kg). Towing a trailer places an additional load on your vehicle’s engine, transaxle, brakes, tires and suspension. Inspect these components
carefully after towing.
01-01-2009, 11:58 AM
For some reason the tables didn't line up, bu you should be able to figure it out from the labels and numbers
01-01-2009, 12:33 PM
here is a thought, ship your car to your new home. its under 1000, and its insured!! as long as ur staying in the US, its not too bad to do, or at least, so i've read.
01-01-2009, 03:58 PM
That was the best advice... thanks!
going to ship the car, take a plane with the cats, ship the mattress (I have a really really nice back health one) and a couple boxes greyhound and come out at about $3000 spent when driving would have been over $7000 after gas and rentals.
I am really quite nervous about shipping my baby though! what if the train de-rails and flips or someone bombs it because they're some kind of eco terrorists or better yet there is some massive apocalyptic type disaster....
I'm sure it will fine.. [idea]
01-01-2009, 07:29 PM
Holy crap those are some pretty high numbers for shipping/moving stuff! I drove from North Carolina to Utah, stopping in Indiana for a month, driving my truck (~10 mpg), Focus on a trailer, through mountains East and West, and I only shelled out like 1500 for gas and all the other crap. Where are you coming up with your figures??!!!!
Oh btw, I'm sure your car will be fine being shipped...they have insurance for that kinda stuff I'm sure.
01-01-2009, 08:01 PM
yes, I did get the extra insurance :) I'm just a girl... I become attached to things. I actually cried when the new owner drove away my 96 cavalier that I hated anyway.
I'm going Edmonton Alberta to Saint John NB. I lived there about 5 years ago. I miss the architecture and the ocean and the economy there will treat me much better.
Uhaul truck (10") with tow trailer for car and insurance is $3998. Gas is about $1700 (5500-5800KM give or take). 35 gallon tank about 11/12 fills at $130/140 a fill. Food/Hotel/Etc.... replacing things that broke because I can't pack well.... about $7000
Shipping by rail about $750, boxes and mattress $500, plane ticket and cat carry on $1200. Food, cab home after I drop the car off to ship, cab to pick the car up $120. Drive to pick up boxes $100. Strap the mattress to the top like in the ikea commercial and lose it somewhere on the highway.... $100 for mattress delivery..... about $3000
Driving myself with a trailer $2000 and hoping the car is okay in the end. I don't want to do damage that is avoidable, even if it's annoying
01-01-2009, 08:41 PM
the reason for the weight for the 5X8 trailer, is because the trailer, if it outways your vehicle can start to steer and toss the tow vehicle around.
the best thing to do, is not to drive fast... i would say if your hauling 1,000lbs with a focus. leave overdrive off, and drive at max speed of 60mph...
and do alittle pre-trip preperation... change the oil right before the trip, and i would deffinately recommend getting the tranny fluid changed also... then change the tranny fluid atleast, after the trip is over.
and if you really wanna keep an eye on things, i would even recommend a transmission temp gauge to be installed before the trip also...
01-01-2009, 09:22 PM
you can put whatever u want for insurance. I know someone who bought a car in michigan and had it shipped to cali for his co-op and paid 800 insured!! u will be just fine!! GL
01-02-2009, 01:47 PM
Good choice you made to ship everything. Towing a box trailer (even the 4x8) behind the Focus would be a bad idea. Towing is OK, as long as the vehicle is engineered for it. I wouldn't push the Focus any beyond its 1,000lb limit, except for a short distance.
I do have one off-the-wall suggestion, provided you have the time and resources to set it all up. You BUY a large box van, big enough to fit all your stuff, and the Focus inside. Then, when you arrive at your destination, you sell the truck. This avoids the heavy one-way penalties that truck rental firms charge. All you need is to find a loading ramp or dock on both ends to get the car in the truck.
01-02-2009, 10:10 PM
I would definately ship the Focus. When I had my Xterra, I drove it from Wisconsin to Portland to let my brother borrow it for awhile. Instead of flying out there to drive it home, I had it shipped. It cost less to ship the truck than the gas cost to drive it out there. That doesn't even include all the random costs associated with the trip.