well like the title says i'm trying to piece togetehr a block for under 3,000 for a boost happy zx3

my goal is for around 300hp at the wheels. maybe a bit more.

any idea's other than cfm's built block? kind of a last resort. but still open to it.

sleeve the block if you want to do crazy boost . bore it over get some biggger pistons . dont do a block gaurd there garbage . do low compression . big turbo at like 16 psi you should get to your goal . remember sleeved block itll handle what you bring to it . g/l

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what your saying dont make sense.
i'm woking with an under 3,000 dollar budget for the lower end.
i dont think i have enough to sleeve a motor and put new rods and pistons in it.

and wth is a block gaurd??

ok you can have a block sleeved for like 1k then pistons range from around 300-400 or you can get alot better depending on company and piston . a block gaurd is to give you a little more strenght in the block for your walls not to crack if running to much psi . so sleeving will prevent that . and also block ggaurd keeps back lot of cooliant from motor witch aint good ....
idk your project not mine but i know what id do with 3 k in a block for sure .
or if you can just build your head . get it port and polished . a motor with good head flow is always a plus

I am not sure what a SVT block runs but you should be able to easily built a block with aftermarket forged pitons of your choice amd eagle rods, focus power main caps for under 3k.

well for us to give him any ideas . i gotta know how much psi you wannna run whats your goal /?? 300 ? om pump gas or ras gas ? is this a dialy driver or a weekend jump off ? what size turbo you doing ??? let us know

and hey i got suspension for a focus you know anyone inerested . lower control arms . rear sway bar and all the suspension ill show you pics if interested just pm me and let people know for me beause it says i cant post on the . to buy to sell thread idk why . thanks

and hey i got suspension for a focus you know anyone inerested . lower control arms . rear sway bar and all the suspension ill show you pics if interested just pm me and let people know for me beause it says i cant post on the . to buy to sell thread idk why . thanks

You can't post there yet b/c you don't have enough post. I would advise from threadjacking to sell your part, that tends to upset people. Just an FYI

Back on topic though...Its not hard to get 300whp out of a zetec, many have done it so I am sure he knows what turbo he needs, to reach his goal he will need anywhere from 17-23 psi is a rough estimate.

I hit 326whp at 20psi as you can see below. Thats with a comp turbo similar to a turbonetics super 60stg 3 turbo. There is no need to get exotic on the zetec block.

there you goo and maybe build your head get good flow do some bolt ons . and if those trannys dont come with lsd do that =] build your trannny with that money .

my plan is to use tom's new stuff.
with my old piping thats in a fed ex truck to me as we speak
(old style blow through FP kit)

most aftermarket pistons i see are .007 oversize. is that gonna need boring of the block to fit? i know to use eagle rods. but is it fine to ise the block and head out of a wrecked focus (there are 14 zetecs including some zx2's in the local yards) i think i only need the block and crank if those check out then i can get a race head and run stock cams with no overlap. or will i come up short with the cams?

yea you deff grab a block from a jyard but ... what if the previous owner beat the hell out of it ? how you know the walls arent cracked . how you know it will start when its assembled . but regardless if the piston rings are gone then replace them with new ones . and idk about that .007 . i think youll need to bore out your block .007 over ....

Why would you want to put sleeves in a cast block ?

All you need to do is get a block , have it checked good if it needs any sleves TRASH IT and get another block , bore it to fit the Forged pistons , Eagle rods , I would do billet main caps ,ARP Studs , balance the rotating assy and you have your short block

I can do you a complete built engine for 3550.00 ready to go to 350HP at the wheels easy

Tom

holey crap tom!. i didnt know you built engine too!
lol. well i guess that solves my problem. and it looks like you'll be getting a fair portion of my tax return. more like all of it!!.

Yes I do , have built tons of the Zetec engines from stock 2.0 to stroker 2.3 Zetec engines

Tom

holey crap tom!. i didnt know you built engine too!
lol. well i guess that solves my problem. and it looks like you'll be getting a fair portion of my tax return. more like all of it!!.

I know the feeling here! I had Tom build my engine and so far so good, I don't think I would trust anyone else! Wise decision my friend!

SVT block, bored .007 over, APR Main and head studs, Eagle/ARP rods, JE or SuperTech pistons, and the FR Head should do you quite nicely, all for under 3k. Someone is selling a SVT block for 500 or 550 I believe I saw recently in the B-S-T forums.

well i think ill take a tom's build 2.0.
i dont seem to ahve much patience for mechanical things at the moment (day to day life is playing hell with my mind)

and my car jsut threw a code. but thats a post in the tech chat.

ha i wouldnt do that . i would never let anyone build my motor . whats the point so you always know oh someone else build this motor . your making the motor but you aint putting your time in it ??? hows that gonnna feel when you hit your peek around 300 like oh i didnt even build this i had no input on what goes in ?: ????/ . idk i wouldnt do it myself . but its all you your decision .

Hit your peek at 300 ? My engines are built to the customers request and have seen and held 700+HP to the wheels

Kinda loud for a newby with 7 post and knows little about building Zetec engines

Tom

SVT block, bored .007 over, APR Main and head studs, Eagle/ARP rods, JE or SuperTech pistons, and the FR Head should do you quite nicely, all for under 3k. Someone is selling a SVT block for 500 or 550 I believe I saw recently in the B-S-T forums.

Why would you need a SVT Block ? You cant do the work I do to these engines and do it for less then 3000.00 , cant be done

Tom

no need to sleeve an iron block... what would you sleeve it with, sintered iron? thats about the only material that would be better for holding the pressure and reducing wear... but it would have many downsides.

Brenton, HTP is selling a full SVT shortblock for only $550.

http://htperformance.net/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=35&category_id=9&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1

ok there "tom" posts dont mean anything . i and i doubt 700 to the wheels .

Don't doubt Tom-if he says put down 700 hp to the wheels he put down 700 to the wheels.
Tom has more knowledge about building performance Zetecs than anyone I can think of.
Tread lightly here, ford kid.

kid you've gotta do some reading before you try to bash people!

Tom is the #1 focus builder in america BAR NONE
and he has indeed built a 700whp drag focus so until your more familiar with the focus community it may be a good idea to try not to offend people

hmm. that htp block looks good but look at how much i'd have to change. i'd have to overbore it to fit aftermarket pistons and rods.
and t ouse arp crankbolts i'd have to grind the block skirt. plus dril the hole for the return line. yes i'd be fun but i really dont have a spot for that. (besides in the living room) and i have 4 cats that will get into everything. so thatnks for think pete but i'm going to let tom do it. if i can afford after all my debt is cleared up. which i doubt.

SVT pistons/rods are good to 350+whp

the block would be plug and play, drilling the skirt would take 5 mins

oaky. thats a releif then. since i wont be pushing it even that hard it should be ok. other than drilling the skirt is there anything i should look out for? or another little trick to adress. (i can use the extra on a good zetec head then)

If you are going to build for boost then do it right , The SVT pistons are no better then the Zetec pistons and willl be your week link and will cause you issues , you need forged pistons in there reguardless of who you buy it from

Tom

agreed I wouldnt use svt pistons in a build, but the guy wanted cheap and I delivered

I know , Just wanted him to know in the end its his decision

I dont understand all the hoopla about getting a SVT block they cost more and done add anything for it , 550.00 for a SVT where you can buy a ZX3 same thing for 150.00 ? ?

Tom

t3h 1337 pwn OIL SQUIRTERS!!! lol

The squirters do nothing for safety or performance

Tom

Dont they help keep the bearings lubricated? Other than what is ran through the crank itself.

However, I did hear doing away with the squirters on a built block will reduce a way for the oil to find its way into the chambers causing det.

They theory is to cool the bottom of the piston, to run a higher compression ratio without detonation. But in high stress apps like big boost and a high C/R too many thermal changes can actually break things. Thing of the analogy of a hot Pyrex pan out of the oven being plunged into cold water. Thermal shock breaks things.

well if everything is square i might be able to buy turbo turtle's built block. but i wont say for how much or when it;ll happen. (he has yet to pm me back to say its a deal. if not a basic tom's block is on order.