Car is tune by Fernando at real street preformance.

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your the man Fernando!!![drinking]

VIVA Fernando!!! [pray] What's all been done to it?

Nice to see you got into the 350Hp club Fonsz!!

C-F-M turbo kit with C-F-M intake manifold (made by Vig)

Nice to see you got into the 350Hp club Fonsz!!

Thanks [cheers]

so what octane are you running for that

good question let me ask my tuner.

can you post up links to exactly what you bought.

good job man! Let us know how you like driving it!

and post up some videos of you driving ittttt

Engine bay pics? Intercooler size?

This is not a stock motor of course.

Whats the details on the build?

wheres the torque # and post a graph either way looks good

Here you guys can see some pictures [headbang]

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I dont think that intercooler is big enough, couldn't you at least fit a bigger one in there jeesh...


lol

do you still have the front rebar on the car?doesnt look like it

Let's see the torque

There is no rebar as you can see.

So octane rating for the fuel used?

375fwhp is on race fuel.

Made 330fwhp on pump gas at 17psi

Let's see the torque

I wana see 2!!

Wow...I likey!!

your BOV sounds like super Mario going down the pipes. lol

nice set up, wheres the torque!!!

Here you guys have SAE with TQ and also I included a copy of the chart in STD

[8D]

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nice numbers! now get it down the track!

Man that manifold is hurting your torque down low bad and why are the graphs in mph where are the RPMs, MPHshows us nothing can we see it in rpm i wanna see when it spools

Nice numbers..... but MPH on a dyno is pretty much useless.

Nice numbers..... but MPH on a dyno is pretty much useless.

Useless to who?

That car is making great power for me. The power curve looks nice and smooth. Some people can complain about not having alot of low end power, but that is the trade off with a larger turbo. I am sure that car blows the tires off with that much power already.

I do not see the manifold holding it back from making Torque. I have the FR intake manifold with a dual ball bearing turbo, and my car does not make low to mid range torque because of the turbo size. The turbo makes the difference. Someone can put a small t3 60 trim on the car and make torque, but I am sure it would not make the hp his or my car makes. It is a trade off.

Useless to looking at the dyno to see where it makes power, where it spools, where tq starts to drop off.

When you use MPH it makes all of you curves look really long and gently sloping... for example your dyno should see 5250rpm around 77-78mph and thats the only place you can get some idea of how the motor makes the power and depending on what gear its in that to can lengthen your peaks on your hp and tq curves.

This isnt meant as anything bad againt your numbers but its almost impossible to tell where you make power when using MPH instead of rpm.

Man that manifold is hurting your torque down low bad and why are the graphs in mph where are the RPMs, MPHshows us nothing can we see it in rpm i wanna see when it spools

I'm not here to show YOU anything. I made my goal and if you want to sign up on the hater sheet I have a fresh pen right here. I'm looking to pick up a few more haters before the end of the year. like 10 more or so.

I'm very happy I'm turbo now. I need to drive the car and see how I feel about it. 350+!! I'm part of the club r u?

I will talk to my tuner about the manifold and see if he thinks it's hurting my tq numbers.

Congrats, big man! I know what I'M going to do when my warranty runs out (in another 14 months)...

Before everone starts throwing rocks....

Yes the manifold hurts your low end, MY manifold hurts my low end, any who uses that style manifold will loose some low end power... it cant be helped.

The CFM , JayRacing, SuperSnailFab, and pretty much any other manifold of that style will hurt your low end somewhat. Its all about runner length most of these manifolds run around a 10-12" runner where as the stock runner are several inches longer. The longer the runner the more low end torque you make and the sooner you make it. The SHORTER the runner the more horsepower you will make and it will be higher up in the RPM range.
With a 10" runner you should see peak tq around 5500 rpm. With a stock Zetec manifold (19 inch runners) you will see peak TQ around 4500 rpm... and it "should" make a little more at peak. With a stock SVT manifold you should get best of both worlds... to a point since the SVT manifold is restrictive... that and it could blow apart at any time.

"for example your dyno should see 5250rpm around 77-78mph "

My guess would be 68.181 multiplied by mph to get rpms.

at 80 mph it is probably at 5454 rpms.
at 90 mph it probably at 6136 rpms.
at 100 mph it is probably at 6818 rpms.
at 105 mph it is probably at 7159. rpm
at 110 mph it is probably at 7499.8 rpms.

The way I look at the chart, MPH or RPM, they both basically show you what the motor is turning, and how much power it's making at that 'speed'...
Personally, I'd rather be looking at RPM, but I guess MPH works too :)

Congrats, big man! I know what I'M going to do when my warranty runs out (in another 14 months)...

Thanks shepski

Hey im not bashing you fonsz im building a intake manifold to and yes im sure mine will hurt tq tooim just saying it doesnt seem that it should hurt that much ita almost a 100tq less then your whp. Again im not bashing were just talking maybe i could be wrong but either way good numbers

Man that manifold is hurting your torque down low bad and why are the graphs in mph where are the RPMs, MPHshows us nothing can we see it in rpm i wanna see when it spools

The Manifold is performing incredible on his car and also on mine. If you ever come down to Orlando you can stop by and you can ride with me at low boost and then you tell me if my manifold is killing my low end power.[;)]

I tell you my car breake the tires loose rolling on 3rd gear do I need or want more tq no for what. Also I drive focus not a 302 [screwy]

We are not looking to race from one stop light to another. I use to have a small turbo on my zx3 and the tq was really good and responsive also the car was always on boost with not the top end power I like. When you use a bigger turbo you will have more lag which means no boost no power (low end). But just wait until that boost start going in and you will see. Alphonzo never stop making top end power will do that with a small turbo?

The dyno chart got RPM at the botton right. Also you guys can do the math. When I tune a car I don't really care about hp or tq. The car will make what the car makes I cant make more power than what the engine will produce, am more concern about my datalog and how the engine is performing than hp or tq numbers. Once I got the car where I want it then is time to look for maybe 10 to 20 horses more. I have what I need on my logs and here are the results.

I can tell if spools were I want or not driving the car on the dyno. Also every guy set their goal's and for every goal a different set-up and here we made it and go over it. The car can make more power we just decide to stop. [^]

Please go into this link http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175806

Witch graph there as nice as his??????????? Most of this graph's are on STD our always SAE you guys count the spikes we don't.

Thanks

VIVA Fernando!!! [pray] What's all been done to it?

Thank you![hihi]

This car is making great power , especially considering the boost level. Fernando is a great tuner and he shows his skill here once again. Heck I'd be interested in seeing what this car can do with some more boost and octane! :) GJ and nice build!

C-F-M turbo kit with C-F-M intake manifold (made by Vig)

Curious what turbo it is, just for future reference......Isn't this fun getting your car done!

Curious what turbo it is, just for future reference......Isn't this fun getting your car done!

I'll find out for you. Did u get your dyno sheet from tom? did u want to post it. just for reference. it's always good to compare.

Not dyno yet but we will get one this weekend if nothing else!

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I like the numbers and all and congrats on getting into the 350+hp club, but if you don't have a front rebar, you will be [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)] in any front end collision.

We understand but like we are not planing to crash we took the risk. I say we because mine dont have either. [burnout]

Thanks

Ferdnado FTW! He tune my car once and we got 352 whp 309 WTQ, but i have since done MORE, REALStreet dyno tune coming SOON !

i wish i could even join the boost'd club lol

Please go into this link http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175806

Witch graph there as nice as his??????????? Most of this graph's are on STD our always SAE you guys count the spikes we don't.

Thanks

Dont try that.....

I can tell by the speeds on your graph you did a 4th gear pull (which also causes the turbo to spool sooner due to the increased load) which combined with the MPH instead of rpms gives you the long flat curves which is going to make it "look better".... and I dont count spikes either.

On a dyno with rpm your curves would be a lot more peaky instead of flatter like they are now.........

Ferdnado FTW! He tune my car once and we got 352 whp 309 WTQ, but i have since done MORE, REALStreet dyno tune coming SOON !
In his defense , it's Fernando! lol. Maybe you'll stick with him now instead of jumping around!



Orange nothing for nothing the car made what it made. You seem very defensive about it..

Dont try that.....

I can tell by the speeds on your graph you did a 4th gear pull (which also causes the turbo to spool sooner due to the increased load) which combined with the MPH instead of rpms gives you the long flat curves which is going to make it "look better".... and I dont count spikes either.

On a dyno with rpm your curves would be a lot more peaky instead of flatter like they are now.........

Not trying anything it is what it is.[hihi]

Here you can compare a 3rd gear pull and the 4th gear pull. They both look great [:0]

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On a dyno with rpm your curves would be a lot more peaky instead of flatter like they are now.........

Here is with Rpm's now what still looks awesome [80?]

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Here is with Rpm's now what still looks awesome [80?]

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I knew it...it looks identical to the MPH graph...
Wheel speed or engine RPM, if you know the ratios, it doesn't matter which one you show on the dyno readout :)

This car is making great power , especially considering the boost level. Fernando is a great tuner and he shows his skill here once again. Heck I'd be interested in seeing what this car can do with some more boost and octane! :) GJ and nice build!



^ AGREE [:D] ... wow im very impressed fernando [;)]. people find the most tiny negative things to say but nothing compares then proof [read]. yeah i'll be honest ive had some doubts in the beginning of who was going to tune our car but i dont think fernando can be underestimated anymore he's proven himself over and over again and basically he's knows what he's doing point period.congrats bigfonsz now you must look like a crazy man so happy running your car .. please let me know if you'll ever be down in miami so i wont be near you lol [joke].. ENJOY [driving]

Have you driven it on the streets yet?

I knew it...it looks identical to the MPH graph...
Wheel speed or engine RPM, if you know the ratios, it doesn't matter which one you show on the dyno readout :)

How can you call a curved dyno and a flat dyno "identical"?? MPH makes everything longer and flatter..... when was the last time you told someone that you made 150whp at 59 mph [rolleyes]

No one says I make XXXwhp at XXXmph its always in rpm, thats what most people are used to seeing and thats why several asked to see it in rpm.

Fonz made great numbers.... no one here has said different.

this is an awesome car. amazing at mph and rpm haha.. who seriously cares... im interested in knowing what was all done to the car but only at the discretion of the owner of the car... mr bigfonz..

ive decided no boost club for me with the focus.. just maintain her and keep her a fun daily..

this car seems awesome and i can wait for him to bring it back up to va for me to be able to hear her and hopefully sit in the passanger seat feeling her in a drive.

GOOD JOB AL! its been WAY to long since you have really been able to enjoy your car and you went through A LOT of crap since the beginning... some.. many year ago haha, these guys have no clue.

hahaha congrats man! GOOD JOB! your car has a spaceship sound! lol is that a supersequential bov?

it all boils down to the customer got what he wanted, and fonz is a happy customer. hi fives all around to fonz, cfm, fernando, and real street performance.
btw, the intake runner length is 4-1/2 inches not 10-12

^ AGREE [:D] ... wow im very impressed fernando [;)]. people find the most tiny negative things to say but nothing compares then proof [read]. yeah i'll be honest ive had some doubts in the beginning of who was going to tune our car but i dont think fernando can be underestimated anymore he's proven himself over and over again and basically he's knows what he's doing point period.congrats bigfonsz now you must look like a crazy man so happy running your car .. please let me know if you'll ever be down in miami so i wont be near you lol [joke].. ENJOY [driving]

LoL I'll be n FL this weekend. Thank you for your kindness.

How can you call a curved dyno and a flat dyno "identical"?? MPH makes everything longer and flatter..... when was the last time you told someone that you made 150whp at 59 mph [rolleyes]


Nice numbers..... but MPH on a dyno is pretty much useless.


Look...these are both IDENTICAL except one scales to 500HP, and the other to 400HP. That is why one looks 'flatter'...it has NOTHING to do with using MPH on your readout...lol
The dyno doesn't give a shit if your graph is MPH, RPM or what time of day it is...it's still going to show you the same figures for power...
It's only interpreting speed (RPM of engine or RPM of the drum) as it relates to horsepower...

And like I said, it's telling you how much power your making at a given speed, whether it's MPH or RPM, IT'S THE SAME THING! Speed...

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/WuNgUn/al20std.jpg

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/WuNgUn/rpm.jpg

RPM are just more commonly used, that's all...

The only thing we need to concern ourselves with, is how are WE going to make 350+ HP!!!!

wow you guys really know how to throw a fit about someone stating that they would like to see a dyno in rpms.

The main reason why we wanted to see rpms vs mph is because it's what we are used to. How many people on here know right off the top of their heads that 5250rpms is roughly 77mph in fourth gear probably not many at all. Let alone how many know how to do the conversions. It just helps everyone for conparison data vs what others are making and spool time.

Good numbers, needless to say. You are runing the same size intercooler that I just upgraded to. Not a fan of deleting the core but thats your choice.

I assume this is still a returnless fuel system as well then? The conversion to return style is very very simple and only requires minor modification to the pump assembly and a few other small parts to be able to retain the stock tank, pump, lines, and fuel rail.

I'd be curious to know if there has been any bottom end build up to support this kinda power...or how well the stock SVT internals work at this power level.
Also, clutch/diff?

The car is running 60# injectors with a boost-a-pump , that is all.

Nice Numbers!
The request for RPMS is no big deal. Everyone just wants to see when the Boost comes in and how it comes in. True power, and shape of the curve are generally the same, but it dosent let us know how long it takes for the turbo to spool up.

I'd be curious to know if there has been any bottom end build up to support this kinda power...or how well the stock SVT internals work at this power level.
Also, clutch/diff?

There are several bottom end built cars that have this kind of power.

As far as stock SVT internals with this much power the only person I know to do that was 03OrangeSVT. He made 363 for a while and as high as 382 if I am not mistaken.

The car is running 60# injectors with a boost-a-pump , that is all.

I imagine it would be a real handful without a LSD...
I'd be perfectly happy with 250-275WHP for a more street-oriented daily driver for myself. [deviltail] [driving]

There are several bottom end built cars that have this kind of power.

As far as stock SVT internals with this much power the only person I know to do that was 03OrangeSVT. He made 363 for a while and as high as 382 if I am not mistaken.

For awhile? Until it blew up?? Or...

I am not sure how long he ran is over 350, but I know on the trip home after recording the 380 numbers he got what was suspected to be bad fuel and the engine let go. The ring lands on the pistons crumpled on all four pistons. Thats what you get from cast pistons!

I am not sure how long he ran is over 350, but I know on the trip home after recording the 380 numbers he got what was suspected to be bad fuel and the engine let go. The ring lands on the pistons crumpled on all four pistons. Thats what you get from cast pistons!


lol
I've done that with forged pistons! On a 2-stroke Yami that is :)
Smeared the piston right over the rings...

Bad gas...that's just TOO fine a line for tuning for this guy.

Please lets keep this post about Alphonzo's car.

Thanks

Please lets keep this post about Alphonzo's car.

Thanks

Easy pal...easy...

I was refering to overall runner length from the valve itself to the end of the runner in the plemium. Which should put you somewhere around 8 inches.

Easy pal...easy...

What are you trying to tell me?????????

I was refering to overall runner length from the valve itself to the end of the runner in the plemium. Which should put you somewhere around 8 inches.

Too bad the SVT intake manifold couldn't take the boost...you could have the best of both worlds!

What are you trying to tell me?????????

Do I have to spell it out for you? lol
You come off like an [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)] when you try telling people what to do.
[rant]
Nothing off topic, and nobody is hi-jacking the thread...
So participate in the thread and stop trying to be a wannabe mod!
:)

Did I just read a thread where MPH were discussed on a dyno run? HP, TQ, AF and ambient conditions are about all that matters folks. 03OrangeSVT may not be the kindest guy in the world but he knows what he speaks of my young padawans, listen.

Do I have to spell it out for you? lol
You come off like an [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)] when you try telling people what to do.
[rant]
Nothing off topic, and nobody is hi-jacking the thread...
So participate in the thread and stop trying to be a wannabe nazi mod!
:)

who is the (@$(*&$ now? [scream] wannabe nazi mod! looks like you want to sign the hater sheet also. you can go on line 8 right under the other haters. [slap]

[thumb] Do I have to spell it out for you? lol
You come off like an [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)] when you try telling people what to do.
[rant]
Nothing off topic, and nobody is hi-jacking the thread...
So participate in the thread and stop trying to be a wannabe nazi mod!
:)

Show some respect here. I dint call you names so keep it that way. If you guys like to talk about any other car open a new post. Participate have you been reading this post???????????

wow, i havent been on the forum for as long as many of you guys, but ive logged on almost everyday and for some odd reason there seems to be so much hate against each other..

al, his car is awesome, id LOVE to see every little detailed list of what was done to get the numbers....

mph or rpm... hmm not hard to find out, just go and drive if you dont want to do the conversion and say hey! im in 4th gear, its 4000rpm, and im going xxx speed... dur..

and point in fact, his car is awesome doing awesome, and will continue to be awesome now that it is turboed, done right, tuned right...

STOP THE HATE! holy bajesus.. and yes, to the people back there the thread did seem to be off topic... WuNgUnSVT... just calm down, i dont know if you just havent had any action lately but that was a VERY quick retaliation and some harsh words... what if i said i was jewish huh?

calm down people... send the praise, ask the questions, stop the unnecessary hateful remarks.

wow, i havent been on the forum for as long as many of you guys, but ive logged on almost everyday and for some odd reason there seems to be so much hate against each other..

Too many young people that think they know precisely how everything works and they will be damned if anybody will tell them different.

Be open to the fact that you may be wrong or at least open to listening.

Too many young people that think they know precisely how everything works and they will be damned if anybody will tell them different.

Be open to the fact that you may be wrong or at least open to listening.

I guess more "young people" are on nowdays.. i think we are all subject to this stubborn prideful behavior, however some of us more than others.

Its fine to be open.. but in my opinion, open to constructive critisism or anything helpful yes.. but other things... well its more of an amusement than anything else.

Als car is great, and once he lets me in the passanger seats, ill be sure to let you all know how much of a beast it is.

right al? i get a ride right? [clap]

Too many young people that think they know precisely how everything works and they will be damned if anybody will tell them different.

Be open to the fact that you may be wrong or at least open to listening.

That's the truth! But just because you haven't heard of someone does not mean he doesn't know what he's talking about or doing for that matter. What gets me is over the past few years Fernando has been providing proof what he can do, but still their are those people who will continue to find something to bash, instead of just simply complementing. Honestly , we all know that if Tom posted a graph in MPH (which he has done) people would not say all the crap that has been said in this post. (This is an example)

^That's a load of BS. Even if Tom did post up a graph in MPH, he wouldn't get pissed about a simple request of having on posted in RPM. Throwing that in there is useless.

Now, you have to know that once a thread like this goes up, people are going to be a bit more intuitive than you would like, but hey, you've got to realize that many people (including myself) find these build threads and dyno threads useful and a learning experience. So why not put up some info at the request of others instead of getting riled up? John isn't getting defensive he just wants to see what every other tuner uses as their dyno pull info. He once never discounted anyone or questioned anyone's integrity.

Share the knowledge and expect to learn something as well.

Anyhoo, those are some good looking numbers.[thumb]

NOW this thread is getting outta hand! lol

who is the (@$(*&$ now? [scream] wannabe nazi mod! looks like you want to sign the hater sheet also. you can go on line 8 right under the other haters. [slap]

Dude...I don't hate you, your car OR your dyno print out! In fact, quite the contrary...
What I don't like is teenage wannabe noob mods sticking their nose in threads (FastTuner).

Also, I was trying to explain to Orange that the two printouts are the same, regardless of what speed is used on it...
Personally, I could care less! The power numbers are what interested me!

...03OrangeSVT may not be the kindest guy in the world but he knows what he speaks of my young padawans, listen.

He was clearly wrong about the whole MPH/RPM thing...can we just get past this already?
About the intact tract length, I'm totally with him on that one...

[thumb]
Show some respect here. I dint call you names so keep it that way. If you guys like to talk about any other car open a new post. Participate have you been reading this post???????????

Sorry, didn't mean to call you out...we were talking about totally related topics. I mean, just because someone starts a thread on a public forum doesn't mean he has proprietary ownership over it, or the content, does it? Even so, it's no business of yours if the discussion isn't strictly about the OP's car is it? That's for the mods to decide...
As far as being disrespectful, well junior, that wasn't disrespect...that was self defence.
You brought that down on yourself...

Too many young people that think they know precisely how everything works and they will be damned if anybody will tell them different.

Be open to the fact that you may be wrong or at least open to listening.

EXACTLY!!

^That's a load of BS. Even if Tom did post up a graph in MPH, he wouldn't get pissed about a simple request of having on posted in RPM. Throwing that in there is useless.

I don't think the tuner or the OP was upset about the request to posting an RPM graph! lol
If they were upset, it was because of people thinking they know what they are talking about and slamming the dyno printout!
All I was doing was providing evidence that the two [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]g printouts are identical (for all intents and purposes).
Posters going on about how using MPH flattens your numbers!? Whatever!

So why not put up some info at the request of others instead of getting riled up?

I think that's exactly what he did, no??

Fonsz...I dig your car mang! You have the numbers everyone wants, plain and simple...
Maybe some of us are jealous!

^ The whole point is why is it everytime when one person(s) asks a question or expresses interest in the details that apply to a build (i.e. this thread), he or she gets mobbed by so-and-so's party? It doesn't have to be like that. Spare everyone else the drama or take it over to FJ where it seems to be a daily thing.

Back on topic, what psi is the car running? Sorry, I can't see the dyno graphs to well here at work.

^ The whole point is why is it everytime when one person(s) asks a question or expresses interest in the details that apply to a build (i.e. this thread), he or she gets mobbed by so-and-so's party? It doesn't have to be like that. Spare everyone else the drama or take it over to FJ where it seems to be a daily thing.

Back on topic, what psi is the car running? Sorry, I can't see the dyno graphs to well here at work.


if im not mistaken it's 17 psi (correct me if im wrong)[screwy] .... i think i saw around it around all this "drama" lol [giggle]

Hmmm...I was expecting above 20 psi for some reason.[8]

Thanks for filtering through the muck SP!

Hmmm...I was expecting above 20 psi for some reason.[8]

Thanks for filtering through the muck SP!

The race gas really helps getting that kinda peak...
But even still, 17PSI is a lot [headbang]

375fwhp is on race fuel.

Made 330fwhp on pump gas at 17psi


^^^^ is where i got the 17 from... there is no way i can see the tiny dyno sheet at work it's so tiny i cant tell and plus that im blind [histerical] lmao


what turbo is it that your running fonsz?

I would assume they turned the boost up on the race gas hence the 375whp numbers, race fuel alone will not give that much extra power.

What was the boost on the 375whp run?

I would assume they turned the boost up on the race gas hence the 375whp numbers, race fuel alone will not give that much extra power.

What was the boost on the 375whp run?

It might of also been extreme ignition timing as well with the race gas...

I would assume they turned the boost up on the race gas hence the 375whp numbers, race fuel alone will not give that much extra power.

What was the boost on the 375whp run?

yeah i agree but i'll have to see the dyno sheet to know exaclty. thats why i said i cant see the dyno sheet to know for sure .....[rant] i wish i could see the dyno sheet here but i cant even click on them to see it zoomed in .... probably you can see it better, if you can let me know [dunno]

It might of also been extreme ignition timing as well with the race gas...

Well, I think it's safe to presume that they dialed up the boost to 21-22lbs w/race gas and a timing adjustment.

^^ i saw that on the rpm dyno sheet, the 20-21 lbs didnt fully hit until 5-5.5k rpms.

Are you guys serious i did a screen shot were you can see the timing is 16.5degrees also you can see AFR the tune is very conservative and were the car produce 375fwhp have 20psi...

I had provide all you guys ask for so what is the deal??????

Its easy to seat down behind a keyboard and type all kind of bull@*)&*#^)

So to all those ladies that are out of control relax and take a MIDOL

Dude you need to just chill. We were discussing how your power levels were made since some of us can't view the dyno charts right now. WTF? Get off your high horse.

Its easy to seat down behind a keyboard and type all kind of bull@*)&*#^)

So to all those ladies that are out of control relax and take a MIDOL


well, 375 at 20 psi is awesome like i said fernando you know what your doing .[hihi] ....... oh and i hope that coment wasn't for me, & just so you know if that coment was for me it's not my time of the month to drink my midol [neener]

well, 375 at 20 psi is awesome like i said fernando you know what your doing .[hihi] ....... oh and i hope that coment wasn't for me, & just so you know if that coment was for me it's not my time of the month to drink my midol [neener]

You know was not for you [:D]

well at the end of next summer i should be boosting as well. using an old focus-power kit. i wonder how well i can do on pump gas.....
(race gas is expensive and real street cars put down good numbers on pump gas, your numbers are fine, dont worry, i jsut find it a big pain to drain the tank of pump gas jsut to get max power.)

btw the pump gas ting my dad told me, but then he said turbos are for losers (which is why his camaro keeps getting smoked by civics, hes an idiot most of the time)

Nice numbers looks good , Do think the stock manifold would of done with in 8 to 14HP of what that intake did

Tom

Nice numbers looks good , Do think the stock manifold would of done with in 8 to 14HP of what that intake did

Tom

I sure with the stock intake it could have made more but for me it's not worth the risk. I'm sure you know what I mean by RISK. Also the manifold is build to last and will take what I throw at it (PSI).

BTW thanks for the comment. My tuner and builder did all the work.[hihi]

just because you dont want to pick up little plastic pieces everywhere [poke]. I can not blame anyone for going to a better made manifold.... its one less thing to deal with in the long run.

well at the end of next summer i should be boosting as well. using an old focus-power kit. i wonder how well i can do on pump gas.....
(race gas is expensive and real street cars put down good numbers on pump gas, your numbers are fine, dont worry, i jsut find it a big pain to drain the tank of pump gas jsut to get max power.)

btw the pump gas ting my dad told me, but then he said turbos are for losers (which is why his camaro keeps getting smoked by civics, hes an idiot most of the time)

trying to push pump gas is very risk. a lot of people should tell you the same. If you want to push your car limits add race fuel. Understand it's a ford focus and the car is not made to handle the power(300+)

Just make sure you understand what your getting yourself into before starting a turbo project.

That FMIC is just as big as the one that's on my 180sx in Japan..

Good stuff!

I sure with the stock intake it could have made more but for me it's not worth the risk. I'm sure you know what I mean by RISK. Also the manifold is build to last and will take what I throw at it (PSI).

BTW thanks for the comment. My tuner and builder did all the work.[hihi]

I realize you are in Florida and may not have colder days but even on start up and then come to a stop from speed how does it react? This might be a question for your tuner. Did you mess with the IAC valve at all I assume it has been deleted or can you use it with the IM?

By you I mean the car obviously, once it hits Virginia then it may see a little cooler weather!

By you I mean the car obviously, once it hits Virginia then it may see a little cooler weather!

Your right. It's 21 degree here now. I'll talk to my tuner about the cold weather. I'm sure I could data log for him and see if it will be a problem. My car has enjoy the Fl sun for a few months.

BTW where is that dyno sheet and are you picking up the car this weekend?

it all boils down to the customer got what he wanted, and fonz is a happy customer. hi fives all around to fonz, cfm, fernando, and real street performance.
btw, the intake runner length is 4-1/2 inches not 10-12


Hi five back at you. (hands Vig a cold beer)

Thank you for all the hard work you have done on the car. [wrenchin]

Your right. It's 21 degree here now. I'll talk to my tuner about the cold weather. I'm sure I could data log for him and see if it will be a problem. My car has enjoy the Fl sun for a few months.

BTW where is that dyno sheet and are you picking up the car this weekend?

Yeah The plan is for us to leave tonight. A soon as I get back I will post my dynos. Tom said he would but has not had the time. THat guy will never get to retire!

trying to push pump gas is very risk. a lot of people should tell you the same. If you want to push your car limits add race fuel. Understand it's a ford focus and the car is not made to handle the power(300+)

Just make sure you understand what your getting yourself into before starting a turbo project.

which is why i'm changing out to forged pistons and rods
dished for a turbo app. and i'm sure 300 horse can be reached safely on pump gas. cuz thats all i'm gonna run as its hella hard to get race gas up here.
let me get the spec for my turbo and that will really determine the power output.

ive never built a turbo car before. but i know how to build a bulletproof motor. (thanks dad)

^^^ just be like me and switch to E85

As for the SAE vs STD comments go , The SAE IS NOT the tru numbers that you made sitting on the dyno they are calculated numbers figuring in altitude , temp baro etc and not exact numbers

STD numbers are the true number that you just did under the weather conditions at the time of the run , they are a true reading and an exact reading of the run again under the conditions that it was dynoed at

So to say we only show SAE is foolish

Tom

As for the SAE vs STD comments go , The SAE IS NOT the tru numbers that you made sitting on the dyno they are calculated numbers figuring in altitude , temp baro etc and not exact numbers

STD numbers are the true number that you just did under the weather conditions at the time of the run , they are a true reading and an exact reading of the run again under the conditions that it was dynoed at

So to say we only show SAE is foolish

Tom

So what your saying is my number are not correct? I ask because your calling someone foolish will start something. Your better off just listing the way to get so call true numbers and just leave it at that. But knowing how your are this is your way of calling someone out. [thankyou]

You (Tom) have a team of people that live on your every word so you should try and show yourself in the best light at all times. (that's what I would do)

Now what are we going to do about this? Nothing? Say your right? Say your wrong?

I don't think there is anything that can be done. what matters is how I feel and how the car will handle the power it's making.

Done for now...[unsure]

which is why i'm changing out to forged pistons and rods
dished for a turbo app. and i'm sure 300 horse can be reached safely on pump gas. cuz thats all i'm gonna run as its hella hard to get race gas up here.
let me get the spec for my turbo and that will really determine the power output.

ive never built a turbo car before. but i know how to build a bulletproof motor. (thanks dad)

my 353 is on 93oct with forged rods and pistons... but no matter how "bullet proof" your motor is you better not get bad gas. all it takes is one gas station to rip you off and give you 87 and pay for 93 and you could loose your motor. be careful.

Thats why you get the J&S :) youll know before it happens and save your motor

yeah i have one and its nice but i wouldn't want to rely on it. i'd just rather run higher octane over 300whp.

Fonz, I like the svt man. It's pretty awsome. I didn't read through all the drama, so if I missed something oh well.....

Fonz will pick the car today . [burnout]

So what your saying is my number are not correct? I ask because your calling someone foolish will start something. Your better off just listing the way to get so call true numbers and just leave it at that. But knowing how your are this is your way of calling someone out. [thankyou]

You (Tom) have a team of people that live on your every word so you should try and show yourself in the best light at all times. (that's what I would do)

Now what are we going to do about this? Nothing? Say your right? Say your wrong?

I don't think there is anything that can be done. what matters is how I feel and how the car will handle the power it's making.

Done for now...[unsure]

All tom is saying is that if you dynoed your car somewhere else and the alt. and baro pressure etc etc. were different then you would most likely get different numbers. The numbers you got now are not wrong but those are the numbers for the conditions you dynoed in. He's not talking down on you he's just telling you that you will most likely get diff numbers at a different place with diff "surrounding factors" if you will....

btw i love your ride![cheers]

Impressive work all around. No doubt a HUGE change from the Procharger days huh?

As for the SAE vs STD comments go , The SAE IS NOT the tru numbers that you made sitting on the dyno they are calculated numbers figuring in altitude , temp baro etc and not exact numbers

STD numbers are the true number that you just did under the weather conditions at the time of the run , they are a true reading and an exact reading of the run again under the conditions that it was dynoed at

So to say we only show SAE is foolish

Tom

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i dont know what justjokin is saying.. at work we block it.

I think tom makes a point, i think sae is also nice since if everyone uses it it would probably be able to more accurately compare numbers... but what do i know..

Al! you HAVE to let me know when you get back!

^^ That really wasn't needed. Tom said something usefull and I did not know the difference between SAE and STD.

So sounds like you got an issue, call your own damn number.

They are good numbers....

Fonz you get to drive it yet?

justjokin is justanotherexample of how the technical know-how on this board is being replaced by people who would have a difficult time changing their own oil let alone sit down and speak technically about cars. Leave the smarts to people like the one building/tuning the car in this thread, Tom and the likes.

nicely said goat

Yeah I pick up the car last night. The car is a dream to drive. I'm very happy with it. Right now I'm in GA at my dads house. I'll be back in VA sunday to do a full write up.

justjokin is justanotherexample of how the technical know-how on this board is being replaced by people who would have a difficult time changing their own oil let alone sit down and speak technically about cars. Leave the smarts to people like the one building/tuning the car in this thread, Tom and the likes.

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So what your saying is my number are not correct? I ask because your calling someone foolish will start something. Your better off just listing the way to get so call true numbers and just leave it at that. But knowing how your are this is your way of calling someone out. [thankyou]

You (Tom) have a team of people that live on your every word so you should try and show yourself in the best light at all times. (that's what I would do)

Now what are we going to do about this? Nothing? Say your right? Say your wrong?

I don't think there is anything that can be done. what matters is how I feel and how the car will handle the power it's making.

Done for now...[unsure]

Careful Al, You'll get banned.

BTW-Awesome numbers!!

Banned??

I'm a Focus Enthusiast.

Banned??

Kind of looks like thats where ol' justjokin sits now

Dam that sucks his posts were getting pretty funny[histerical]

Back to Al Great work getting the numbers!! Wish I would have gotten your Procharger. But I've got something else up my sleve but nothing as nice as the numbers your putting down.

AL! where is the car!!! is she back? did you pick her up? how does she feel?

Yes sir. Car is back n town no problem on the way back. The car is a beast on the road. Give me a call this weekend and ill make you change your mind out turboing your focus.

Give anyone a good spankin' on the road yet?

I ðont street race. Sorry I keep it on the track.

^ yeah i was going to ask the same question if you've spanked anyone going back home [driving] ..... well either way congrats and im glad to see you car is well and hopefully it doesnt miss being here with fernando in FL [^] . well as soon as you take it to the track let us know what cars you've SPANKED hahaha [;)]

sorry double post

I ðont street race. Sorry I keep it on the track.

oh REALLY! haha. cant wait for it sir! feels better than the procharger for sure huh? haha TURBO FTW! and i never even had one... YET.

oh REALLY! haha. cant wait for it sir! feels better than the procharger for sure huh? haha TURBO FTW! and i never even had one... YET.

You ready for that ride? Car is very fast. I'm going to take some pictures this weekend.

Here you guys can see some pictures [headbang]

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Everything has be coated with flat black from http://performancekote.net/default.aspx

Keep the temp undercontrol and the rust away. good stuff.

Impressive work all around. No doubt a HUGE change from the Procharger days huh?

Day and Night. U stateside buddy?

Yep! First Christmas off in 4 years. Got my car at the tuners now to get something going finally with the turbo. Of course, it'll be nowhere near yours, especially with the damn altitude.

I'll be back in VA visiting family before I head back, may have to try and guilt you into a ride in that thing to see if it's really worth looking for a 5 door SVT or go turbo diesel instead. [:D]

I really like what you have done with coating everything with the ceramic coating....I really need to ahve that done on my stuff as it looks really nasty right now! Could let me know what that cost could you???

I really like what you have done with coating everything with the ceramic coating....I really need to ahve that done on my stuff as it looks really nasty right now! Could let me know what that cost could you???

Not sure about the price. I want to say it was around 500.00. everything is coated. turbo,downpipe,charge pipe, all the piping. I'll have some pic up soon. I can tell it's keeping engine temps down and the look is hot.

Yep! First Christmas off in 4 years. Got my car at the tuners now to get something going finally with the turbo. Of course, it'll be nowhere near yours, especially with the damn altitude.

I'll be back in VA visiting family before I head back, may have to try and guilt you into a ride in that thing to see if it's really worth looking for a 5 door SVT or go turbo diesel instead. [:D]

You know it. after the ride you will not want to get out. drop me a line when your n town. [cheers]

so where are the street vids :)

Soon.I will get some pictures this weekend.

sweet sounds good

Hey Al I am off Sunday if you want I can meet up with you and get you some pics of the car.

Hey Al I am off Sunday if you want I can meet up with you and get you some pics of the car.

sounds good[thumb]

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CFM Block (9.5 Compression)
Built Head New Springs and Valves
SVT Custom Cams
Cam Gears with VCT Elim
Wide Band A/F
Boost/Vac Gauge
CFM 67mm Throttle Body
Billet Oil Pump
Boost-a-pump
60lb Siemens Deka Injectors
SCT x2
ARP Head Studs
ARP Main Studs
ARP Focus Zetec Cam Gear Bolt
MSD Coil Pack
180 Degree Thermostat
Clutch Masters Stage 4
Fidanza Billet Flywheel
Torsen T2 Diff
CFM Team Shits about (5) of them!!!
CFM turbo kit
SPA Turbo Manifold W/ SPA Turbo t-3/t-4 (54trim)
CFM-30054 OFF ROAD PIPE
MSC FRONT MOUNT INTERCOOLER
CFM 4-0150 ALUMINUM FLANGE 2.5
CFM TURBO DOWNPIPE
SPA PCV VALVE RELOCATOR
SPA 3 BOLT WASTEGATE
Tial 50MM BLOW OFF VALVE
DEN SPARK PLUGS
VIB CLAMPS
VIB SILICONE HOSES
BORLA CAT BACK EXHAUST
Greddy Profec B Spec 2 Boost Controller