: HOW Ford Should Build the Special Edition
DJslurp1200 07-11-2008, 12:39 PM Ok so appearantly we have seen so far that the special edition consists of a rear deck spoiler and maybe a couple decals... who knows what else?
That's all we have for now...
Lets all chime in and voice our opinion of what "WE" would like to see from the Focus "Special Edition"
besthaticouldo 07-11-2008, 12:43 PM 4 wheel disc brakes
more power, a motor that revs to 7k, prefer forced induction
good 5spd (or better yet a 6spd)
good leather interior
nice gauges, that go past 140 lol
nice sound system, much like audiophile, with ipod hookup and subwoofer
nice suspension, roughly 1in lower then stock
HID headlights andfog lights that actually work
a color matched grille, and a good ground effects kit
i just want a damn base to work off of.
SkyPilot 07-11-2008, 12:46 PM ^2x
and throw in
svt euro style rims or something similar
WUGcatsvt 07-11-2008, 12:49 PM What Derrick Said.. Sounds Perfect! 09 wheels will be cool!
turr520 07-11-2008, 12:54 PM DCT (Dual Clutch Transmission) with pedal shifters...
SquillyB 07-11-2008, 01:08 PM 4 wheel disc brakes
1-more power, a motor that revs to 7k, prefer forced induction
2-good 5spd (or better yet a 6spd)
3-good leather interior
4-nice gauges, that go past 140 lol
5-nice sound system, much like audiophile, with ipod hookup and subwoofer
6-nice suspension, roughly 1in lower then stock
7-HID headlights andfog lights that actually work
8-a color matched grille, and a good ground effects kit
i just want a damn base to work off of.
Thats not a base thats a whole new car, silly.
1- agree* higher rev's and around 170hp would be nice
2- by "good" make suggestions for improvment
3-agree* but the whole green thing is really popular and leather isn't very green
4-more of a race style gauge set up, explain nice
5-combo the sync with audiophile sytem?
6-explain nice a little further please
7-agree* if your going to give it to us make it worthy
8-please supply photoshop or pics of suggestion here, this is a matter of taste.
Please post pics and links to info you guys. If this is going to be a ligit thread for them to look at we need to make it as easy as possible for them to research cost and devolopment.
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besthaticouldo 07-11-2008, 01:09 PM ^2x
and throw in
svt euro style rims or something similar
damn i knew i was forgetting something. a nice looking 17 inch wheel with quality rubber.
i want something i can take from ford and thrash at auto x immediately.
DrkKnight614 07-11-2008, 01:20 PM Best hit it right on the nose, but svt euro style rims...werent those already on the sport package focus for 2009? the 15spokes with the dark chrome.
besthaticouldo 07-11-2008, 01:29 PM Thats not a base thats a whole new car, silly.
1- agree* higher rev's and around 170hp would be nice
2- by "good" make suggestions for improvment
3-agree* but the whole green thing is really popular and leather isn't very green
4-more of a race style gauge set up, explain nice
5-combo the sync with audiophile sytem?
6-explain nice a little further please
7-agree* if your going to give it to us make it worthy
8-please supply photoshop or pics of suggestion here, this is a matter of taste.
Please post pics and links to info you guys. If this is going to be a ligit thread for them to look at we need to make it as easy as possible for them to research cost and devolopment.
2. a limited slip would be ideal. but i doubt it. a getrag tranny mated to a d-tec motor would be a dream.
3. the seats from the green edge are made green and theyre incredibly nice. seats like that would be perfect.
4. i think something more like what the svts had. with a silver face and green glow.
5. bingo sync, audiophile, and upgraded speakers would be the shit.
6. stiffer springs, slightly bigger rear sway bar, better dampers. a lower stance and more aggressive stance.
8. color matched grille seems self explanatory
http://www.steeda.com/images/08focus_650.jpg
that kind of a lip kit would be ideal and the blacked out grille is shown here as well.
nov173 07-11-2008, 01:39 PM i like that ^^^
Trav-E2.0 07-11-2008, 02:00 PM 4 wheel disc brakes
more power, a motor that revs to 7k, prefer forced induction
good 5spd (or better yet a 6spd)
good leather interior
nice gauges, that go past 140 lol
nice sound system, much like audiophile, with ipod hookup and subwoofer
nice suspension, roughly 1in lower then stock
HID headlights andfog lights that actually work
a color matched grille, and a good ground effects kit
i just want a damn base to work off of.
X2
but, plainly put, throw the MS3 motor into the works [;)]
Trav-E2.0 07-11-2008, 02:01 PM http://www.steeda.com/images/08focus_650.jpg
Steeda does the same damn design for every Focus they get their hands on. I swear!
[rofl]
SkyPilot 07-11-2008, 02:04 PM ^ lol agree
ShamrockSVT 07-11-2008, 02:08 PM I've never been impressed with anything steeda has put out, in the looks department.
besthaticouldo 07-11-2008, 02:10 PM I've never been impressed with anything steeda has put out, in the looks department.
do you want huge wings and crazy sharp lines?
that steeda compliments the 08 more then any other kit. its soft lines and just makes the car look tons better.
besthaticouldo 07-11-2008, 02:11 PM X2
but, plainly put, throw the MS3 motor into the works [;)]
i dont want that motor. it has no room for growth. they are a bitch to mod.
1sloho 07-11-2008, 02:18 PM just do what focussport did with their 08. lol!
we want somethin that can compete with the cobalt ss, srt-4's and cars in that category. doesnt hafta be a 300hp monster. forced induction from the factory would be nice obviously, a nice stiff suspension (like came on the saleen focus).
Trav-E2.0 07-11-2008, 02:28 PM i dont want that motor. it has no room for growth. they are a bitch to mod.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
They have made huge numbers with this motor. I've seen a couple cats make over 300hp with simple bolt ons and tuning. Stock the numbers are (IIRC) 250hp and 270TQ. Couldn't ask for anything more...lol
besthaticouldo 07-11-2008, 02:32 PM WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???
They have made huge numbers with this motor. I've seen a couple cats make over 300hp with simple bolt ons and tuning. Stock the numbers are (IIRC) 250hp and 270TQ. Couldn't ask for anything more...lol
yea...and? have you seen gains on the ecoboost motor? or the 2.5l in europe? they are making way better power. give us those motors.
they see 50hp on more boost, bolt ons, and tuning? im not that impressed. boosted cars should see 12-15whp on an intake. and 20whp coupled with exhaust. those numbers are on par.
ShamrockSVT 07-11-2008, 02:38 PM do you want huge wings and crazy sharp lines?
that steeda compliments the 08 more then any other kit. its soft lines and just makes the car look tons better.
No, I don't want that stuff. If you recall Saturn boy, I am a mustang fan, so I've seen quite a bit a Steeda stuff in my time. And again, I've never liked any of it. How you can project from me saying that I don't like steeda appearance packages that I want "huge wings and sharp lines" is beyond me.....other than once again, you are just trying to start an argument by saying the first retarded thing you can think of to say to someone. [rolleyes]
If you actually knew anything about me, rather than just making assumptions based on nothing, you would know that I prefer more subtle clean looking exterior modifications. In the future, look for updates on things I am doing with my current car, and you will see what I'm all about. Then you will be able to make proper guesses about the kinds of things I might like, instead of just being a keyboard hero saying anything you can think of.
Oh, and Derek, have a fantastic day.[cool]
Klondike 07-11-2008, 02:43 PM i think they should give the 09 to the svt team and let em have at it, im sure something nice will come out of it, they did a good job on the svt in 02-04, why not let em make it from 09-10/11 when we get the new one, just to give the enthusiast something
TKE_Quailman 07-11-2008, 02:46 PM also i like how one of the reasons they say they dont make one is that there isnt enough of a market for it yet people keep paying 22k for those dam Si's
besthaticouldo 07-11-2008, 02:46 PM No, I don't want that stuff. If you recall Saturn boy, I am a mustang fan, so I've seen quite a bit a Steeda stuff in my time. And again, I've never liked any of it. How you can project from me saying that I don't like steeda appearance packages that I want "huge wings and sharp lines" is beyond me.....other than once again, you are just trying to start an argument by saying the first retarded thing you can think of to say to someone. [rolleyes]
If you actually knew anything about me, rather than just making assumptions based on nothing, you would know that I prefer more subtle clean looking exterior modifications. In the future, look for updates on things I am doing with my current car, and you will see what I'm all about. Then you will be able to make proper guesses about the kinds of things I might like, instead of just being a keyboard hero saying anything you can think of.
Oh, and Derek, have a fantastic day.[cool]
well dont call me saturn boy, what does insulting a car i had 3 years ago matter. that saturn would have dumped all over any mustang you owned (or own). i made that comment about the steeda kit because its known for flowier lines the most other kit. hence sharp lines and huge wings. its subtle with nice under tones. what would you prefer they do to the exterior of the car?
im trying to be a keyboard hero? where? did i come in and save anyone with my keyboard? stop trying to villianize me here. its rather pathetic for you think that i am actually trying to pick a fight with you. i have better things to do with my time then that.
and it was a question. wasnt meant to be sarcastic. i was asking more what you wanted the exterior to look like then to be an [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)].
you're trying to read to hard into things on the internet dude, relax.
if you wanna start shit bring it to PM. i wasnt and will continue to not. just because you read to far into it doesnt mean i was trying to be a jerk. relax.
slipster17 07-11-2008, 02:47 PM i think they should give the 09 to the svt team and let em have at it, im sure something nice will come out of it, they did a good job on the svt in 02-04, why not let em make it from 09-10/11 when we get the new one, just to give the enthusiast something
And if the SVT team is busy, give the design to the guys at Focus Sport. We already know they have worked side-by-side with Ford on some projects. And they can make a damn nice '08
PumkinSvt 07-11-2008, 02:53 PM good luck! thats all I am gona say!
we prolly wont get any nice performance options.
so why bother
Klondike 07-11-2008, 03:00 PM i say just all be patient and wait for the euro versions, their gonna be somewhat nice, id be happy to see the st over here, sure rs would be cool, but st is just as sweet, knowing you can hang with stis and such.........
and yes focussport would do a good job on making a performance version, i wonder what the total cost was of their buildup for the STC
1stTimeFocus00 07-11-2008, 03:05 PM And if the SVT team is busy, give the design to the guys at Focus Sport. We already know they have worked side-by-side with Ford on some projects. And they can make a damn nice '08
Agree 100%.. Ford should team up with focussport or svt and produce their focus that way.
I would use frpp spings and black eap wheels. Rear disc brakes from the ST. A 6-speed tranny. A header with a cat in it to provide more hp and mileage and able to swap onto older Foci with ducatechs (which would be a way to recoup some r&d money). Borla cat back exhaust. For the interior do aluminum sill plates, pedals, shift knob, aluminum trim pieces and black leather seats with no adding or deleteing anything but n-sync stereo. Maybe a 5 speed auto as an option.
SquillyB 07-11-2008, 04:40 PM also i like how one of the reasons they say they dont make one is that there isnt enough of a market for it yet people keep paying 22k for those dam Si's
The focus GT will be a little higher than that. The brand new saleen N20 focus was 25K when I looked at it. The first focus GT in the true sense of a GT will be very powerful when released. A quick change would be an american released motor already in circulation, one with a little more displacement.
PumkinSvt 07-11-2008, 04:42 PM focus gt???
DirtyDeeds 07-11-2008, 04:53 PM ^^^I know...SquillyB keeps referring to a Focus GT, but he isn't giving out any details.
WTF!! Spill it already.
DJslurp1200 07-11-2008, 04:56 PM ^^^I know...SquillyB keeps referring to a Focus GT, but he isn't giving out any details.
WTF!! Spill it already.
Lets hear it SquillyB!! Spill the beans!
Honestly I don't care... I just want to see a Focus that can "keep up" with the competition...
PumkinSvt 07-11-2008, 04:57 PM Come on squilly! you gotta let us in on this! you cant keep this from us!!
SquillyB 07-11-2008, 05:05 PM I'm not saying I know anything. All I'M saying is look at Ford's history of killing their line up. Take the escort for example. Remember when they killed two version off, produced the GT, and then came back with the newer body style escort? Look at the focus life line in the US.
"there will still be room for a hot ST, which will use a 260bhp version of the current 2.5-litre five-cylinder turbo." will this be our special edition?? Will they simply call it a "st"? Surely not a "SE" for Special Edition, lol.
All I'm saying is make your own guess, the letters " G T " have a long history at FoMoCo
PumkinSvt 07-11-2008, 05:20 PM um ok....
DURATECoftheDesert 07-11-2008, 05:33 PM How the Focus Special Edition should be built, in DURATECoftheDesert's mind.
1)VVT/VCT
2)Re-resurrect the 2.3 I-4/Mazda's 2.5 I-4 MZR
3)6 Speed Auto/6 Speed Manual/Mazda's Tiptronic transmission system
4)17 Inch wheel with Low Profile tires
5)4 Wheel Disc brakes
6)Re-resurrect the Street Appearance Packages
7)ABS Standard/No Traction Control/No Anti-Stability Control
8)Make Sync Standard (Reasons for the Hands free law of july 1)
9)Serviceable Airbox/Aftermarket parts friendly
10)SVT Suspension/Sway Bars/Strut Bars
That's all I could think of at this moment, but this are vital to the Focus heritage to share components with the Mazda 3.
DJslurp1200 07-11-2008, 05:49 PM I'm not saying I know anything. All I'M saying is look at Ford's history of killing their line up. Take the escort for example. Remember when they killed two version off, produced the GT, and then came back with the newer body style escort? Look at the focus life line in the US.
All I'm saying is look at the "special edition" escort that europe got... The Cosworth RS.
We never got one... one can only imagine how great that would have sold over here... Also... Look at the "special edition" focus's they got! ST170 (svt), The RS and the new ST's!!
C'mon man... The only way Ford killed their line up is not bringing the right "special editions" to america of the model of cars they already sold here!!
SquillyB 07-12-2008, 12:59 AM All I'm saying is look at the "special edition" escort that europe got... The Cosworth RS.
We never got one... one can only imagine how great that would have sold over here... Also... Look at the "special edition" focus's they got! ST170 (svt), The RS and the new ST's!!
^^^ correct , same point as me
C'mon man... The only way Ford killed their line up is not bringing the right "special editions" to america of the model of cars they already sold here!!
^^ misunderstood me. I have been asking all over, which cars are going to be produced along with the special edition focus? Do you think they will produce them all along side it? I would say no. When Ford switched body styles on the cars I mentioned here in the states they offered a GT version the year or 2 before then did away with the old model. But when they offered the GT version they usually cease production of a lower end model and make pricing adjustments to work the "special edition" model in.
So what I'm saying is which model do you think they will get rid of?
SE
SES
ST
because there will be a "special edition" so that would make four models. Unless they label the "special edition" focus the GT (as the past would dictate) and take out the middle of the road ses, lower pricing on the last run of ST's and SE's to move them for delivery of new cars.
stivo 07-12-2008, 01:07 AM so I guess we're requesting the SVTF then...
SquillyB 07-12-2008, 01:11 AM I just want them to keep this promise, then I won't buy an ATX this time.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/squillyb/car_photo_239613_25.jpg
SquillyB 07-12-2008, 01:16 AM very similar to the old "Black Magic" focus
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/squillyb/ford_focus_cc_black_magic_images_2.jpg
so give us the leather
SquillyB 07-12-2008, 01:17 AM I want the button!!!
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa18/squillyb/ford_focus_cc_black_magic_images_3.jpg
theonly287 07-12-2008, 01:38 AM Those interiors would be ideal...I like them both but the ebrake on the first one...WTF?
Also what Id like to see in a Focus are more realistic.
1)170-200bhp
2) 17in wheels
3)sport suspension with a nice rear sway TC and LSD
4)a lip kit
5)HIDs
6)6speed
7)leather seats...I love the two tone of the SVT
8)microsoft sync with nav
9)exclusive colors much like (comp orange, screaming yellow)
JUST MY 2 CENTS
MattyKrackSVT 07-12-2008, 01:42 AM i want a hatchback, that looks just like the st in europe. with the same motor.. i wont settle for less sorry
HaveBlue83 07-12-2008, 04:29 AM we won't get this ever again.....SVTF was the swan-song of the focus development. Until ford realizes that not everyone WANTS a new mustang and makes something with BALLS for us, it won't happen. They are perfectly happy with making crappy foci as long as the mustang sells....and it will.....so they won't use any extra money for development for the future focus.
Make something with Boost that is fun, just like EVERY OTHER sport compact car company is doing........
Chevy: Cobalt SS
Dodge: SRT-4
Mit: Lancer EVO
Subaru: WRX/STi
Ford Europe: RS/ST225
Toyota: Scion/w S.C TRD
Ford America: .........................the jury is still out on this.
(oh, wait, nevermind...ford doesn't CARE what we want. and bringing the MK1 focus over here was a MISTAKE. it only won car of the YEAR the first year it was over here). You just keep wasting money on the re-tooling Ford. I'm SURE you could have built the MK2 by now.........
I really like the designs presented in this thread.....too bad they will never be seen......
Focus112 07-12-2008, 10:28 PM ^^^What extra money???
Just want enough power to be respected by other tuners
Focus112 07-12-2008, 10:28 PM Shelby Focus maybe?
spacegravity4me 07-12-2008, 10:45 PM I might get flamed for this, but make it a mazda 3, it'll look fine.
SD_Focus 07-12-2008, 10:45 PM I want a convertible '09 focus with flower rims and more cup holders. maybe a stubby antenna on the trunk lid that would be cute omglolz
starfuryt550 07-13-2008, 12:12 AM If they do not offer a manual, I am crossing all and any plan I would have of buying any new focus. Story closed on that front alone.
All of Best's ideas are good.
I would suggest though, that they freaking make ALL the chrome body colored and all the b/c pillars glossy as well as the mirrors like on the SVTs.
And the shitty-ass stock rims need a make over drastically. Any use of Firestone tires will be forbidden--worst tires I have ever driven on (stock focus tires).
stivo 07-13-2008, 12:57 AM I want a convertible '09 focus with flower rims and more cup holders. maybe a stubby antenna on the trunk lid that would be cute omglolz
Dood!
and a flower vase thingy in the dash! That would be sooooo cute!
sjdwales 07-13-2008, 03:03 AM i don't know if anyone knows this, but this could be on the special edition focus, but they r putting the 2.5 duratec engine from the escape in the focus with dual exhausts. i don't know when we r going to get this now, 09 might be to late, so maybe in 2010??
im loving all these ideas, bring on the pretty flowers.lol
better interior was be good too, im tired of ford putting cheaper quality plastic for dashboards and door panels.
Brindfan 07-13-2008, 03:44 AM A serious "semi-auto" transmission needs to be offered in a special edition Focus. Something like the Geartronic offered in the Volvo C30, or the S-tronic offered in the Audi TT.
DrkKnight614 07-13-2008, 04:59 PM A serious "semi-auto" transmission needs to be offered in a special edition Focus. Something like the Geartronic offered in the Volvo C30, or the S-tronic offered in the Audi TT.
well the fiesta is suppose to get one, so the focus probably will too. Word is itll also be offered in the next fusion. Ford actually has a name for it i forget, but its their version of a duel clutch automanual.
DJslurp1200 07-14-2008, 12:06 PM I want a convertible '09 focus
Europe has a convertible focus...
j-zetec_pr 07-14-2008, 12:32 PM 4 wheel disc brakes
more power, a motor that revs to 7k, prefer forced induction
good 5spd (or better yet a 6spd)
good leather interior
nice gauges, that go past 140 lol
nice sound system, much like audiophile, with ipod hookup and subwoofer
nice suspension, roughly 1in lower then stock
HID headlights andfog lights that actually work
a color matched grille, and a good ground effects kit
i just want a damn base to work off of.
you want it to be an SVT..lol
Brindfan 07-14-2008, 04:52 PM Europe has a convertible focus...
And it's a retractable hardtop convertible at that.
DJslurp1200 07-14-2008, 06:44 PM And it's a retractable hardtop convertible at that.
And could you imagine that car with a killer turbo setup? LOL
....Must be nice...
Onlyford4me 07-14-2008, 08:32 PM do you want huge wings and crazy sharp lines?
that steeda compliments the 08 more then any other kit. its soft lines and just makes the car look tons better.
Exactly right in my opinion. I think Steeda does a great job in the looks department. I've really liked about everything they've done. I'm not into crazy body kits, so theirs is perfect.
'65 stang289 07-15-2008, 12:58 PM team up with roush again
SVT_ME 07-15-2008, 01:34 PM Functional vents for engine bay...
SPIman2.0 07-16-2008, 10:12 PM Heres my whole take on this even though other people have probably already said the same thing.
1. MOST IMPORTANT! More power. Perferably up around 200 bhp if it's na. Maybe up at the cobalts 260-270 if it has FI.
2.Dropped suspension. Stiffer, and somewhere around .5-1 inch(s) lower than stock.
3. a FUNCTIONAL Aero kit. Not flashy, but distinctive, and functional.
4. 4 wheel anti lock with a ceramic disk and pad option???
5. LITE wheels. Not like like looking wheels, but lite wheels, like..... below 19lbs. a peice.
6. Sticky and Fat tyres as standard.
7. HID's and fogs that ACTUALLY WORK!
8. sporty yet comfortable interior. Not leather, but something like that wetsuit material or the fabric that Volvo uses in their seats. Definitely something with heavy side bolsters.
9. TC/ESC as standard with A FULLY OVERRIDEABLE SYSTEM AND NOT JUST A BUTTON THAT BACKS OFF OF IT A LITTLE BIT!!!
10. Last but not least. Something that puts all of this in an affordable range. I'm not saying that it has to be 20k, but don't give us what we want and then tell us that we could buy a GT for the same price.
Step it up Ford. We all love you, but get your head out of your ass and stop being money grabbers. Keep up with the competition and give us something to live for!!!
FocusStrider 08-07-2008, 10:03 PM Steeda does the same damn design for every Focus they get their hands on. I swear!
[rofl]
How about that look.. but with 200hp in as a base engine and a BETTER MPG..? Or should we call it Focus GT? lol.
FocusStrider 08-07-2008, 10:04 PM Or... a Focus GT500... with 500hp... it would have killed almost every competition ;-)
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