: SVT Swap....Possible or Not?
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-03-2008, 09:27 AM Alright guys i have a few questions i need answered. First of all i drive a 2.0 Zetec ATX Focus Se. Now here is my first question. Would it be at all possible to swap into my car the SVT engine and then equip my car with the SVT 6 speed manual transmission? If so what kind of things would i need to do and such. As most of you are going to say why not just buy a SVT. Well for the simple fact that i don't want to be just one of the crowd. I think a four complete svt swap INCLUDING the engine ands tranny would be not only unique but also pretty intresting. Thanks for everything beforehand. [8D]
WUGcatsvt 02-03-2008, 09:40 AM Very possible.. besthaticouldo already did both... He started out doing the Tranny swap then Blow his motor and throw in the svt motor.. It requires just about everything under the hood of an svt
SkaAddict 02-03-2008, 09:44 AM Very possible...its been done a few times.
You'll need a LOT of parts;
Engine
Transmission
SVT ECU and complete wiring harness
SVT shifter and cables
SVT passenger side mount
SVT halfshafts
SVT/04 fuel pump (not sure if this is necessary...the SVT does pull slightly more fuel than a normal Zetec.)
Optionally, you may want the SVT gauge cluster.
Its a lot of work, the biggest pain is going to be changing the wiring harness...the last guy who posted up about it ended up pulling the entire dash shell out to get at it.
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-03-2008, 09:46 AM Ok that exactly what i was wanting to know. Because the focus is going under a big project mode right now. As it will be getting the front grill,front bumper, side rockers, wings west avenger back bumper, mach 1 front lip, mach HIDS from SVT, svt interior swap, looking at either SVT wheels or RS cant decide. So pretty much everything that will transfer over from the svt will going into this. But thank you very much for replying and not telling me how dumb an idea it is. Appreciate it man
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-03-2008, 09:48 AM Oh ok yeah i was imagining i would need to do quite a bit work for this. Do you know by any chance how hard the pedal swap for the car would be though. As i know putting in the 6 speed its going to gain a new set of pedals. thanks for everything else though man because this is going to be the next big job i do. Also how hard would it be to fabe something for the middle console to put in the 6 speed shifter?
WUGcatsvt 02-03-2008, 12:04 PM You can keep the same pedals... Although I Would what to have the SVT ones... Also you dont have to change your Console
egman2005 02-03-2008, 12:06 PM yes but he has an auto now
so a ccutch pedal is needed
SkaAddict 02-03-2008, 12:10 PM ^
Forgot about that...
He'll actually need the entire clutch/brake pedal assembly out of a MTX Focus. Might need a new brake master cylinder as well...can't recall if there's a difference or not [dunno]
WUGcatsvt 02-03-2008, 12:25 PM WOW.. That will Need alot of work then..LOL.. You Need to just sell that car and Buy an SVT.. Probably would be cheaper.. With all the Little stuff you have to do it will add up
egman2005 02-03-2008, 12:31 PM plus the svt is way sexier!!!!!!!! LOL
WUGcatsvt 02-03-2008, 12:33 PM ^^^ Yup
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-03-2008, 02:00 PM Yeah i had a feeling someone would mention just buying one. And as they are really sexy i dont want to. I want to be different when i go somewhere. Anyone can go out and buy a SVT but it takes time, patience, and will to build your own from a four door. I just think it will pay off. Thats all. Im not looking to sell it. ITs going to be a complete swap. Thanks for the option though.
SkaAddict 02-03-2008, 02:04 PM WOW.. That will Need alot of work then..LOL.. You Need to just sell that car and Buy an SVT.. Probably would be cheaper.. With all the Little stuff you have to do it will add up
Well...I could see doing it if you're capable of doing all the labor yourself and get a pretty good deal on the parts. Otherwise...I'd say you're better off just buying the SVT if only for all the other goodies that come with it (phenominal brakes, nicer interior, 17" factory wheels, good suspension, etc.)
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-03-2008, 02:29 PM Labor is going to be done by my borther, step-dad, and myself. We all know what we are doing we actually rebuilt and turbo charged a AE86. Parts wise im already looking at the engine and tranny for a good price at a couple places i know up north. The goodies will be transferred over though from different svt's begin parted out i find. Including the seat, im going to snag a suspension kit, my brakes are going to switched to brembo's all around 4 wheels. As for the wheels it's either between the bronze euro spokes or the rs wheels. Like i said though EVERYTHING is going to be put in.
tczx3 02-03-2008, 02:33 PM I completed a SVT swap on my son's 02 ZX3 ATX this past November. I can tell you everything you'll need to know.
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-03-2008, 02:57 PM Alright man well i have a 2000 Focus SE so i pretty much need a run down of whats going to be needed and stuff like that. I don't need a complete walkthrough but just a general idea of what i am looking at if you could.
Roland07 02-03-2008, 06:35 PM SVT 4-door!
Now you're talking. With a 2000 though, do you have the zetec or SPI?
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-03-2008, 06:56 PM Ummm right now as it stands i have the 2.0 DOHC Zetec WOOT! thats right man SVT 4 doori thought it would be a welcome change to do.
kettle-one 02-04-2008, 05:46 PM Well, if you really want to be different do a SVT Contour v6 swap. But, if you insist on a SVTF swap, I'd try to buy a whole wecked car, you could probably pick one up for about $3k-4K-ish that way you get the brakes and suspension goodies, furthermore, if you found a 5 door, I think the interior would work too.
besthaticouldo 02-04-2008, 05:57 PM ok dude...this is the part that will prolly destroy what you want.
you will need the entire interior wiring harness. you will need the gem module. you will need to figure out how to wire in the tail lights because yours are sedan ones. you will need the ECU. you will need the axles. you should get the spindles. everything actually bolts in. its the fact of getting everything to run correctly is the problem.
tczx3 and i have both done this swap. we are willing to help you.
but let me fore warn you my friend. this swap took me and two very good mechanics 100 hours over the span of two weeks to complete. some of that was waiting for parts. some wasnt. but it was soooo worth it imo.
that is just my heads up. let me know if you wanna persue this.
mpsii 02-04-2008, 07:08 PM Very possible...its been done a few times.
You'll need a LOT of parts;
Engine
Transmission
SVT ECU and complete wiring harness
SVT shifter and cables
SVT passenger side mount
SVT halfshafts
SVT/04 fuel pump (not sure if this is necessary...the SVT does pull slightly more fuel than a normal Zetec.)
Optionally, you may want the SVT gauge cluster.
Its a lot of work, the biggest pain is going to be changing the wiring harness...the last guy who posted up about it ended up pulling the entire dash shell out to get at it.
Include also the:
SVT Header, flex, cat and choice of exhaust
SVT Power Steering line (may need pump as well)
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-05-2008, 02:40 PM Yes sir i do plan on pursuing this option still. This is what i want to do with my sedan. Also i wasn't actually thinking of switching to the hatch tails i think that would look tacky.
broham71 02-05-2008, 02:55 PM Yes sir i do plan on pursuing this option still. This is what i want to do with my sedan. Also i wasn't actually thinking of switching to the hatch tails i think that would look tacky.
HA HA... I don't think that's what he meant.
He is saying you will have to fasten the SVT wire harness to the sedan tail lights. I don't know if there is a plug difference.
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-05-2008, 04:40 PM wait why do i have to rewire my sedan tails at all. i mean really does swapping then engine mean i have to re wire the tails? If it does i don't care just need to know.
besthaticouldo 02-05-2008, 04:46 PM the plugs are different for the bulbs iirc
i wanna know how serious you are about this before i sit down and make out a parts list with tczx3.
cuz i can get you a list.
it wont be short. it wont be cheap.
broham71 02-05-2008, 05:07 PM wait why do i have to rewire my sedan tails at all. i mean really does swapping then engine mean i have to re wire the tails? If it does i don't care just need to know.
Well, this is the deal. Derrick and I thought "We don't need the harness that goes from the junction block on the drivers side under the carpet to the tail lights. It should be the same. How much would they change for the SVT". Well we plugged the ZX3 harness into the SVT harness and "waallaa"! One tail light is dead and the other stays on ALL THE TIME and melts!
Just a warning.
besthaticouldo 02-05-2008, 05:09 PM ya...word. hes right.
you need ALL the wiring for the car. they are different. idk why. but they are different. now i have to go back and retroactively replace all the interior wiring in the car.
tczx3 02-05-2008, 06:01 PM I know the wagon and 3 door wiring are similar but the sedan is different, not due to SVT, just the 4 door is different than the 3 door and wagon (ZX5). The wiring for the lights could be overcome, just a matter of tracing wires and connecting the svt harness to the sedan harness. Not as challenging as the rest of the project. However, in thinking about it there may be other issues between the harnesses for chassis functions like power locks, windows, etc. I'm wondering if the sedan is more similar to the older Escort and the ZX3/5 may be newer design?
besthaticouldo 02-05-2008, 06:04 PM i think you should get an zx5 harness if youre gonna do a sedan. it might be a bit more uniform and make a bit more sense cuz it has the 4 doors and everything. etc.
tczx3 do you wanna work with me on making a parts list for this and maybe working on a how-to?
tczx3 02-05-2008, 08:17 PM tczx3 do you wanna work with me on making a parts list for this and maybe working on a how-to?
Yeah man, sounds great. Let me know what you wanna do! You going to Focus Fest?
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-05-2008, 09:08 PM Hey guys sorry i was slacking on replying. Anyways besthaticouldo i am very serious about this project. As i know it will be very time consuming and very exspenive i have though long and hard about it and its what i wan to do with the focus. Any and all help will be appreciated. I have wanted for so long to do something cool with a four door and this is it.
besthaticouldo 02-07-2008, 01:14 PM Yeah man, sounds great. Let me know what you wanna do! You going to Focus Fest?
no im not going to focusfest. haha...
send me an e-mail
besthaticouldo at gmail dot com
and we will go from there compiling a list and everything. maybe working on a how to.
Muhaha2 02-08-2008, 03:20 AM <--- Wants a parts list and How-to. Very serious about the swap. Have most of the funding now :D
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-08-2008, 08:58 AM Yeah guys parts list would be great thanks for the THREADJACK(Muhaha2 pm them)!!! anyways that would be cool just let me know also am changing out crap svt bumper housings for sme projector ones with HIDS should rock.
besthaticouldo 02-08-2008, 11:18 AM Yeah guys parts list would be great thanks for the THREADJACK(Muhaha2 pm them)!!! anyways that would be cool just let me know also am changing out crap svt bumper housings for sme projector ones with HIDS should rock.
ok he didnt thread jack dude. the forum isnt yours. relax. he wants the same info as you.
muhaha2....pm me or e-mail me and ill get YOU the info.
Sn4ckM4st3r 02-08-2008, 06:53 PM Wait so your seriously not going to give me the parts list because i said that?
SkaAddict 02-08-2008, 08:10 PM He never said he wasn't giving it to you...he was telling Muhaha to PM him about it.
Lighten up [nono]
Muhaha2 02-09-2008, 06:13 AM U have a pm :D besthaticouldo excuse the thread semi jack haha.
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