My brother has a 2000 Focus Zetec with an automatic transmission and he's looking to swap to the European diesel Focus motor.
Will that bolt up to he current tranny? Other than fuel line stuff, what else do you think he would need?
Also, are there any other vehicles the Focus diesel was in?

that will definately not pass US emissions so keep that in mind even though you're in florida...it will also not run on the new US low-sulfer diesel so also keep that in mind...

I'm not worried about emissions, you'd be surprised by the amount of cars down here that wouldn't pass.
I didn't think about the low-sulfur diesel part though. That's a bummer.
Maybe he'll just have to do the 5.0 swap like I've been telling him to.

thanks man

So run it on cooking oil , it will run perfect ans with about 60 to 80% less emmissions oh yea and smell good to

Tom

Low sulphur is what modern turbo-diesel cars needs to run. That is stuff u can find easilly in EU. Was hard until recently in the US. So that's not a problem. What Tom's mentioned was OK with old Diesel and TD cars...modern one you will destroy...sooner or later

So the low-sulfur diesel over here does work with the recent EU Focus diesel motors?.... alrighty then.

I've been researching the cooking oil changeover quite a bit. Great idea but my brother's much too lazy to do it.

if you can get a 351 in there might as well put a new 6.4 power stroke in there. ... lol

yes you can but buying a front clip front europe so you can get all the parts is almost half as much as an old vw tdi and that doesn't include the labvor of the swap. i really looked into doing this

If I helped put a 6.4 power stroke in my brother's car I'd end up taking it from him and entering every burn out competition I could find.

arrestmespi, do you have any more links or info on switching it to a TDI?
That's something I'd definitely look into doing.

i agree with tom bro, run cookin oil!!! Mcdonalds FTW

I've been researching the cooking oil changeover quite a bit. Great idea but my brother's much too lazy to do it.

Come on Josh, do I have to say it in Chinese for you to understand? That seems to help you at school...

hahahaha yeahhh missed that line

there are so many alternatives to just diesel. theres the old cooking oil and now soymet there are power gains, cleaner emissions, and relativly cheap

Why does europe get better Fords than we do? I thought Ford was an american company.[rant]

because the people inventing the cars there are more talented :-( we lack finesss lol

It all depends on what type of diesel it is. I believe the Common Rail Diesels won't run on veggie fuel w/o a proper conversion. ULSD as mentioned already has been in widespread use in Europe for a LONG time, the auto companies and the oil companies lobbied against it here because, wait for it...$$$ the almighty dollar, screw the environment...

What about E85... are they making any fords with the ethanol engine in them?? and is there a swap to make the focus to have e85 engine?

LOL, I'm a focus "fanatic" from Europe and own both Zetec 2.0 and 1.8 diesel (TDDI) and have absolutely no idea why would you want to swap Zetec for diesel?! it's silly...

What about E85... are they making any fords with the ethanol engine in them?? and is there a swap to make the focus to have e85 engine?

I "converted" mine to E85. 2.49 a gallon here in Wis.

Low sulphur is what modern turbo-diesel cars needs to run. That is stuff u can find easilly in EU. Was hard until recently in the US. So that's not a problem. What Tom's mentioned was OK with old Diesel and TD cars...modern one you will destroy...sooner or later

Sorry, but you're wrong.

The EU has been taking a measured approach at reducing the level of sulphur in their diesel for the past few decades vs. the sudden jump we made here. Current EU standards mandate that all diesel sold within the EU contain less than 50 ppm of sulphur, while we just switched from 500 ppm to 15 ppm. And technically, 500 ppm diesel is classified as "low sulphur" diesel, we're now running "ultra low sulphur" diesel.

This is why the TDI VW models disappeared after 2006, and why gas stations now put warning labels on their pumps to not run the fuel in cars built prior to 2007. The reason is older (2006 and prior) diesels use the fuel to lubricate the fuel delivery system and valvetrain, but the process that reduces the amount of sulphur in the fuel also has the side effect of reducing the fuel's lubricating abilities. A friend of mine is a professional diesel mechanic who oversees a fleet of ~30 dumptrucks, flatbeds and a few tractor-trailers explained it all to me (there's more to it that I can't recall, this was back in May,) and because of all this the company he works for is now running their trucks on a 80/20 blend of ULSD and biodiesel.

i would really like to find out what is involved in doing this. someone complete it with a write up!

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Well...the biggest hurdle to clear would be getting the engine, transmission and ECU from Europe. After that it wouldn't be much different from swapping any other Focus engine into your Focus.

can somebody write here why would you want to swap a 2.0 Zetec for a 1.8 diesel (direct injection or common rail)? because it makes no sense to me at all...

but technically you would need:
- the engine plus the all wires, fuel lines etc...
- diesel fuel tank (not exactly sure, but the capacity in diesel is a bit different)
- ECU
- transmission
- front suspension upgrade (the diesel engine is much heavier and stock Zetec suspension would die quickly)
- more other smaller parts...

besides that, you'd have to order parts like fuel filter from Europe... no idea what's the reason for such an upgrade as it would cost much more than upgrading to an SVT plus some additional mod probably...

If you want to run biodiesel you can't do it without the diesel engine ;-) Plus I am sure just the diesel alone will save you money on fuel with its better economy. I looked into doing this but decided it would be much easier to just buy a turbo diesel jetta or something.

can somebody write here why would you want to swap a 2.0 Zetec for a 1.8 diesel (direct injection or common rail)? because it makes no sense to me at all...

but technically you would need:
- the engine plus the all wires, fuel lines etc...
- diesel fuel tank (not exactly sure, but the capacity in diesel is a bit different)
- ECU
- transmission
- front suspension upgrade (the diesel engine is much heavier and stock Zetec suspension would die quickly)
- more other smaller parts...

besides that, you'd have to order parts like fuel filter from Europe... no idea what's the reason for such an upgrade as it would cost much more than upgrading to an SVT plus some additional mod probably...


the reason has absolutely nothing to do with performance. it is all about economy. the diesel would be way better on fuel and more efficient transportation. I personally would love to see how much this costs before i go buy a new VW jetta TDI for my new Daily next summer

1. I don't believe you would change 130HP Zetec foa a maximum 115HP diesel (so it's actually much weaker) just to save some $$$
2. The swap, with parts & shipping from Europe, plus some labor costs in the US would be, according to my quick calculations, about 4.000USD + suspension
3. you have a choice between a very old TDDi engine (90HP) and a newer Common Rail with either 100HP or 115HP - the newer ones have a lot of problems with bad fuel, turbo and some other parts, so are very unreliable... the old one is very reliable, but offers completely no joy of driving...

Summary:
With your fuel prices (veeeery cheap comparing to Europe) there's no point even thinking about that, unless you're doing like 200k miles per year or something... it's not worth it...

I want to use veg oil/ biodiesel. I am going to use this to heat my house as well. I am trying to get away from using gas anymore I am going to be converting my black ZX3 to run E85 as soon as we get a pump here which is going to be very soon. You have to understand some people do not want to use gas for many reasons other than money. I will actually spend more to not buy gasoline.

[burnout] I want to use veg oil/ biodiesel. I am going to use this to heat my house as well. I am trying to get away from using gas anymore I am going to be converting my black ZX3 to run E85 as soon as we get a pump here which is going to be very soon. You have to understand some people do not want to use gas for many reasons other than money. I will actually spend more to not buy gasoline.
well, in that case you should get yourself a TDDI diesel, but it's terribly slow comparing to the Zetec... plus, it would be easie to sell your focus and buy one from Europe (you would have euro bumpers for free)...

The diesel engines used in the european focus (both tddi and tdci) have problems with the fuel injection pumps. A pump will probably not last longer than 200.000 km and replacement will cost about 1500 euro's. Some people add two stroke oil to the diesel fuel for extra lubrication of the pump. I don't know if this will help. You can buy a used focus with diesel engine here for about 4000 euro's. You will need much more parts than just the engine and transmission. A diesel engine has no throttle cable (electrical) and uses a complete different fuse box.