hey guys-
I'm getting an svt focus, and i was looking at some blowers. I narrowed it down to jackson racing or procharger. I heard the procharger can make around 270 whp, similar to the JRSC w/ BBK. Which is the better setup, with regards to performance, reliability, etc? And also, are they basically bolt-on? Anyone who has had experience with any of these kits, can you guys point me in the right direction? Thanks much, appreciate it!

the bbk jrsc will not make 270whp....theres no comparison between the two, but if you were to compare you could do a pworks or a procharger....my personal opinion would be a procharger tho

is the procharger the better kit then? would you know if its reliable, etc? i read it gives approx. a 60% hp increase, which is 270 whp. but does that kit come with a tune...?

procharger is better. it costs more for a reason. a big part of that is it's intercooled, the JRSC isn't

Procharger does NOT come with a tune or injectors. It is a FANTASTIC blower with huge power potentials. From about 3500 rpms up to 7000 it seriously screams and sounds like a jet!! 10lb kits are seeing in the 270whp with good tunes. Changing the oil sucks, thats about it. Install was very easy. This is all from personal experience!

so my next question would be: where to get one? and also: if its i/c'd, then i also assume it comes with some sort of tune, right? is the kit complete, with bigger injectors, etc.?

Procharger does NOT come with a tune or injectors. It is a FANTASTIC blower with huge power potentials. From about 3500 rpms up to 7000 it seriously screams and sounds like a jet!! 10lb kits are seeing in the 270whp with good tunes. Changing the oil sucks, thats about it. Install was very easy. This is all from personal experience!


This shoudl have answered your Q ^^^^^

they posted at pretty much the same time. he didn't see utahsvt's post yet

...yea', as much as love the JRSC+BBK--'been runnin' it for 30k miles--but, the procharger will blow the the JRSC out of the water. But, if you like reliability, and added fun, then JRSC is a good option. 'Good luck with the shopping.

...yea', as much as love the JRSC+BBK--'been runnin' it for 30k miles--but, the procharger will blow the the JRSC out of the water. But, if you like reliability, and added fun, then JRSC is a good option. 'Good luck with the shopping.

So are you insinuating the procharger is unreliable?

I would think the more boost, the less reliable when everything else is stock. Its not that its unreliable, its that the procharger is less reliable than the JRSC. However, that intercooler is a good thing for the engine.

So are you insinuating the procharger is unreliable?

...no not at all! I hope I didn't just offend procharger fans. I'm just saying, what I DO know is that the JRSC is a great way to go. I don't know anything about the procharger--except that it's very powerful. So, no I wasn't passing judgement on that setup.

... Its not that its unreliable, its that the procharger is less reliable than the JRSC....
You really dont have any evidence to back that up. In fact Id be willing to bet there are substantially more blown engines due to overspun JRSC's than prochargers. Im not necessarily here to defend procharger at all, I just hate seeing assumptions thrown about.

You really dont have any evidence to back that up. In fact Id be willing to bet there are substantially more blown engines due to overspun JRSC's than prochargers.

exactly but that's the owners' fault. the kit outta the box, i would agree with number1187svt that the JRSC is probably more reliable than the procharger, just because there's less boost and being the common roots style blower found on numerous cars from the factory

but wait, are we talking about the reliability of the supercharger itself or how reliable your car would be after the supercharger?

Both. I'm just looking for what you guys think, just some input from experience. So can we agree that JRSC is more user friendly, seeing that it comes bolt-on outta the box and with some sort of a tune? It seems like you really have to know what you're doing with the procharger, seeing that it has to be tuned and matched with proper fuel injectors, etc. My GTP has that problem of running too lean after I dropped the pulley size down. I don't have access to any tuning. It's a living hell, and i'm gonna fail inspection

You can be tuned via email , as I'm .....but you have to invest into predator or XCAL ,injectors,mafia,wideband and J&S (which is anyway a good investment). I'm running procharger, 8PSI (which is less then JRSC w/BBK!!) living in Canada and tuner (Tom) is in the States....install is VEEEEEEEEEEEEERY easy....and car can be put in stock within 3 hours......and I think only ZETEC had full kit, tune included back in days (at least it was in FF magazine). You still can contact Procharger and ask them....

P.S.:If you will become hungry for more power later on...there is no easy option for JRSC w/BBK...but on PC u can switch to smaller pulley (8PSI is 2.62, 10PSI 2.55 .... smallest one is 2.25 or even switch to FMIC).....retune and you ready to go with more power :-)

P.S1: That 60%-65% increase it's with 8PSI pulley on CRANK....which is about 240 at the wheels...if u aiming at 270 whp...you have to go with 10PSI pulley...and totally forget about JRSC (but then u need even more money, because your clutch will go bye bye soon ;-))

Ive owned at one time a procharger and sold it for no other reason than im a frickin idiot. But enough about me if you are looking for low maintenance and just something to zip around town go with the JRSC. Now on the other hand if you are looking for a relatively easy install and massive power potential go with the PROCHARGER. Not to mention when that thing is in boost it sounds absolutely SICK.

ProCharger hands down.

I would think the more boost, the less reliable when everything else is stock. Its not that its unreliable, its that the procharger is less reliable than the JRSC. However, that intercooler is a good thing for the engine.
As long as you have the belt and pulley properly aligned the procharger is VERY reliable - as reliable as the JRSC. Mike -B16SiR1991, is very good at installing the procharger kits.

The 8# procharger kit gives similar #'s compared to the BBK JRSC, but it's ~$100 to upgrade to the 10# pulley on the procharger and you'll be walking BBK JRSC's..

I recommend at least 55# injectors...

As long as you have the belt and pulley properly aligned the procharger is VERY reliable - as reliable as the JRSC. Mike -B16SiR1991, is very good at installing the procharger kits.

The 8# procharger kit gives similar #'s compared to the BBK JRSC, but it's ~$100 to upgrade to the 10# pulley on the procharger and you'll be walking BBK JRSC's..

I recommend at least 55# injectors...

Procharger.. I looked at jrsc and didn't like the no I/C. I have a FMIC with the 8lb pulley one my procharger.I made 195tq on 10psi. procharger is the only supercharger that can make the power on 10psi. Plus how many jrsc are making 300hp? Not bashing. I have the up most respect for all people that improved their cars. Get a procharger and you will be happy with it. Get a jrsc and you will be happy with it. Get a powerworks and you will be happy with it. lol

Thanks guys. Procharger it is. Now this kit is avaiable for the SVT, right? And also, I looked everywhere without any hits. Where can I get one at?

http://www.joeblowracing.com/

cfm has them as well. the kit is almost identical for ZETEC and SVT...the only difference is piping from TB into IC and pulley size !!! so make them understand you wanna SVT kit and which pulley size (depending on this belt as well)...

Good luck with the install! Let us know how it does. Numbers and drag times!

Thanks guys. Procharger it is. Now this kit is avaiable for the SVT, right? And also, I looked everywhere without any hits. Where can I get one at?

Get a hold of Mike (b16sir1991), he even has a vendor forum on here Hilbish Ford, he will get you the best price on a new Procharger!!

... I have the up most respect for all people that improved their cars....
O/T, in case you've made it this far through your life saying "up most respect", Id like to officially inform you that the correct phrase is "utmost respect".

Carry on.

There is no comparison between them JR sc sucks if your thinking about a roots style blower go with the Powerworks It can easly make 280whp

O/T, in case you've made it this far through your life saying "up most respect", Id like to officially inform you that the correct phrase is "utmost respect".

Carry on.

Thanks Dougoefre5h... [cheers]

Is it possible to equip the JRSC with a FMIC?

Nope^^

Nope^^

damn guess il be saving more for the ProCharger

As an added bonus...no need to tap any oil lines with the Porcharger...

Are you set on a supercharger or is turbocharging an option?