i love www.autoblog.com great site i find stuff like this on it all the time.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/03/fiestan10.jpg

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/05/confirmed-ford-fiesta-coming-to-america-hope-for-mondeo/

AWWWWWW, it looks more like the original (00-04) style. So cool![8D]

Any idea on how its going to look like??? Hope its not another 3Bar grill crap =(.....

The picture there is of the CURRENT Fiesta, which we are NOT getting. We are getting the NEXT Fiesta when it comes out. I'd guess that it will have the razor grille in North America at least, since that's the new corporate grille.

Yeah!!! another car for Ford to ruin :)

You know, if they would bring us a Fiesta ST (without a damn razor grill), I might actually have to think about it...

The funny thing is, if ford doesnt touch this car, and doesnt put a grill on it. Then it sells more then the focus, maybe ford will relize it dont need it??? hopefully they dont ill buy one, rather then the new 2008 focus =( saddends me they couldnt just bring the euro focus. That be sweet... looks more like the original 2000 focus, and before they messed it up =)

Take the 2008 Focus's skin and smash it onto the Mazda2 concept, it'll probably look something like that [:)]

Still a vehicle I'm excited to see come through. By the time I'm in the market for a replacement to the SVT, I may be in the market for one as my commuter vehicle - I'll have a designated fun vehicle by that time, so it's allowed to be plenty practical.

It's Fiesta time! Ole! [cheers]

looks like a nice car

It looks alittle too small for me. I like the size of the Focus. It's not too big and not too small. Oh, and I do like the way the new focus looks also. Too bad it won't have the 20+ horsepower bigger engine in it.

[thumb] to Ford. Now hopefully they don't go and screw it by "americanizing" it. Please no ugly razor grill, and please for the love of god bring the Fiesta ST over. Performance is similar to an SVT I believe, 0-60 in mid 7's, great handling, styling and in a cheap package.

Yeah, i think if all of us can group up and either find a way to bug ford enough... like send a message every single day or sumthing, saying we dont want no more chrome grill, and to not mess this car up since the focus is already destroyed =(..... If someone can do that for us... since most of us dont want a grill :(((.... like a protest on the internet.

It's Fiesta time! Ole! [cheers]

Now that's funny!

you'd think SOMEONE from Ford's public interest groups would know about this site, and would check threads like this...........

naaaaaaaaaa, that would be getting some kind of feedback on things they need to know.....

even if Ford does manage to make it's new B-car hideous for the NA market, there's a good chance that the Mazda2 will make over relatively unscathed. I do really like the current Fiesta (especailly in ST trim...), but the 2 is really growing on me too.

Yes, that looks like a fun car, IF we get it unmolested.

Yes, that looks like a fun car, IF we get it unmolested.- Vinney266- perdy funny right there :P
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LoL, it would kinda be a replacement for the focus, if u guys did change the name... id be ok with it...i like it whole bunch more then the new 2008 focus.... ME <3 HATCH =)

Rather than wait for the next-gen Fiesta they should import the current one NOW! NOW! Why does Ford drag their damn feet until its too late? The Fiesta ST is a perfect little hot hatch, I'd totally check it out if they brought it here.

Of course, either way, whether they brought over the current model or if/when they bring the next-gen model, it will have to meet U.S. crash standards which means those nice body-hugging bumpers would be gone.

Why is the Fiesta ST so darn expensive in the UK? Fully tricked out is almost 15k pounds, approx 30k usd

Why is the Fiesta ST so darn expensive in the UK? Fully tricked out is almost 15k pounds, approx 30k usd

ALL cars are more expensive in europe.

ALL cars are more expensive in europe.

And usually much nicer.

ALL cars are more expensive in europe.
Yeah, but for 30k I could buy a 350Z or some other nice car.

The 350Z that starts at £26,495 in England?

Why is the Fiesta ST so darn expensive in the UK? Fully tricked out is almost 15k pounds, approx 30k usd

For comparison, if you go to Honda's UK website, you can build a Jazz (aka the Fit here in the U.S.) which is one of the more popular B-segment cars. Choose the Sport or SE model and start adding some options and the next thing you know it's price is about the same as the Fiesta ST, with a lot less "oomph" in the engine department, too!

Remember also that (at least as far as I know) pricing is different in other countries. Here in the U.S., the MSRP does not include things like tax, license, registration fees, and so on, which may already be included in the listed price for a vehicle sold in other countries.

So what size engine would this have? I like it. Looks better than the new focus coming out. Especially those fender flares.

well if they bring over the St version also its gonna get 1.5l 170... doubt that the engine is gonna be that small, maybe that engine, for the gas sipper version... the ST... hopefully have a ST version with a much bigger engine.

Dont know dont have all the specs, info etc....

Looks alright. It's very close to being an older gen Focus, but its design is slightly more rounded and plain looking in my opinion. I hope they don't dull it down even more when they bring it to the US. I've got a very bad feeling about that, considering what Ford did with the Focus.

I think my eye is still on the Mazda 2 though. That news definitely grabbed my attention when I first heard about it. It has a sharper design than the Fiesta by far. I might end up liking it more than the Focus altogether. I can't wait to give it a test drive when it comes over.

thats cool, st version would be kick ass, even with razor grille, cuz it can be pulled off!

Yeah, but for 30k I could buy a 350Z or some other nice car.

30k dollars would not buy you a 350z in the UK.

mazda2 might not be coming over, they still havent decided, so u might have to deal with the fiesta, and ST. well they made it just havent decided if their bringing it over along with the fiesta..... Im still excited ford is actually getting a slightly pimp subcompact from ford cheap :D.....And a St version with decent power, hopefully they keep the ST.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=119868?imw=Y.... more news, this is showing that both mazda2 and fiesta hatchback will be showing up, around late 2009 it shows that it will be designed in Germany, engineered in Japan, assembled in Brazil. =D

so that means ford isnt going to touch it =P.... horay no grill.... oh plus it will have sync like the rest of ford cars =)... So YAY!... hopefully something will turn up and they can bump it up to a 2009 model.

Why do you guys hate the razor grille? It helps improve aerodynamics by 'cutting' the air flow that is directly proportional to how many razors it has, meaning that it would be a rocketship if Ford somehow managed to fit 500 or so in the grille (my calculations MIGHT be off on this one).

On a more serious note, I think it's great Ford is getting into the sub-compact segment. I don't see gas prices dropping below $2 anytime soon, if ever. It would be great if they would, but I'm willing to bet that you're going to see fewer and fewer SUV's on the road and more fuel efficient vehicles. Not only that, but a new Focus starts at $14k... that's only $2500 less than what my SVT was!

You can get a new focus for a lot less than 14k- in Wisconsin right now incentives knock $3500 off the sticker before you even haggle with the dealer (as long as you finance with Ford credit).

A subcompact is a good idea though. Gas prices are on the upswing again, so small cars should be selling briskly.

Gas prices had a lot to do with my Focus purchase last year.

Made in Brazil?? Now apparently even Mexican-built cars are costing Ford too much? My memory runs short, but I seem to recall the short list of cars built in Brazil and sold here have been pretty crappy.

I wish Mazda2 would come in a 2 door hatch!!!....4 door dosent look good at all.

I'm not a big fan of 4-door cars either. Don't really need 'em at the moment. But it looks surprisingly clean for a 4-door hatch. The back window doesn't have that stupid extra frame/mini-pillar thingy (don't know what you call it) that plagues 99% of cars. Why do they put it there? I don't even know. Maybe I'm just too picky.

Made in Brazil?? Now apparently even Mexican-built cars are costing Ford too much? My memory runs short, but I seem to recall the short list of cars built in Brazil and sold here have been pretty crappy.

VIN3, I think your base Jettas are made there. VIN's might have changed since I read up on them to separate Mexico and Brazil who were looped together under 3.

And now for something completely different:

YAY Ford!!! I'm so PROUD that Ford decided to start marketing a tiny gas sipper, and is bringing one to the market 2 years after their Japanese competitors started. That's what I call a BOLD MOVE, and definitely a WAY FORWARD. That's how you show the world American ingenuity!

Just one more thing that makes me wonder what the average Roman was thinking during the reign of Augustus.

^Waves hands in AIR^ thats what im talkin bout =)

Screw the fiesta. I want a 2.3 Duratec-powered Ka.

me too, i wanted the 2.3 but i can care less,eventually will get a engine with some power in a compact car, but we have mazda for that i guess. I need a gas sipper....when i start moving out of the house :P. I already have a 5.0 302 small block in my 1956 ford f100 im glad i have my foci .

well, hopefully the ST version is available with a lil power be good enuf for me. Cuz i aint really a mazda kind of person i still <3 Ford and will never own anything else.... mazda, volvo..only others i like and would drive and owned if i had to.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=116118#2, nice clean fiesta all dressed up.... i like it....more and more. hopefully we do get it im changing it up focus for fiesta, I Excited. !!!! =)

Good News =) lookie here it shows that mually is looking into bringing in the new mondeo and focus st version that is made in germany. http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200703091235DOWJONESDJONLINE000795_FORTUNE5.htm

VIN3, I think your base Jettas are made there. VIN's might have changed since I read up on them to separate Mexico and Brazil who were looped together under 3.

And now for something completely different:

YAY Ford!!! I'm so PROUD that Ford decided to start marketing a tiny gas sipper, and is bringing one to the market 2 years after their Japanese competitors started. That's what I call a BOLD MOVE, and definitely a WAY FORWARD. That's how you show the world American ingenuity!

Just one more thing that makes me wonder what the average Roman was thinking during the reign of Augustus.


2 Years, whatever B segment car they bring is not going to come out till like 09....try like 4 years. Yea, and the Focus ST and the new mondeo wont be coming, we already have the fusion, and we're not getting the MKII focus. Maybe if were lucky, we'll get the mondeo in a couple of years when the fusion is suppose to get a remodel, and they'll just change the name for here in america to fusion. Thats the only way i see it coming here.

http://www.fiestastoc.com/forums/index.php?act=home is pretty sweet pictures on their fiesta ST's hopefully we get them..... Eventually

"Americans prefer a less aggressive grille than Ford has on its cars in Europe. They want a basic entry-level car," said Martin Smith, Ford of Europe's executive design director. "Europeans want a stylish car. Chinese buyers want a vehicle that looks sophisticated - for example, with chrome fittings."

This blurb taken from Autoweek is exactly the problem which has plagued FoMoCo's bland designs for the American market. Americans don't want another basic, bland design for an entry car. YOUR ASSUMPTION THAT THEY DO IS WRONG. THIS HAS BEEN THE CRITICAL MISTAKE YOU HAVE MADE FOR TWENTY YEARS.

Well i want a stylish car..... people want it to look stylish not....bland>Chrome....to much is a bad thing....i dont want a car that sticks out like a sore thumb....=(..... i want this, it looks like the focus.... with bigger tailights =)....well hopefully i have high hopes for this...even though i shouldnt cuz what they did to the focus.... :*(

"Americans prefer a less aggressive grille than Ford has on its cars in Europe. They want a basic entry-level car," said Martin Smith, Ford of Europe's executive design director. "Europeans want a stylish car. Chinese buyers want a vehicle that looks sophisticated - for example, with chrome fittings."

This blurb taken from Autoweek is exactly the problem which has plagued FoMoCo's bland designs for the American market. Americans don't want another basic, bland design for an entry car. YOUR ASSUMPTION THAT THEY DO IS WRONG. THIS HAS BEEN THE CRITICAL MISTAKE YOU HAVE MADE FOR TWENTY YEARS.

I don't even understand that... I always thought of the Euro grilles as conservative, not nasty gaudy like all ours are. That doesn't even make sense at all...

oh well, hopefully the whole grill thing will be off maybe in a few years 1-2 from now when the fiesta does come....hopefully...and...i thought they are trying to save money....last i knew chrome is more expensive then plastic ?.... =]

It's not real chrome... have you seen the "chrome" lug nuts? They're crappy steel lug nuts with a plastic "chrome" cover over them. Mine are all rusted.

i was kiddin... hehe haha?....i was giving excuses not to use it =)....im not that dumb... i hope =P

compared to a yaris or anything else in 'tiny ' US market...its hands down fiesta.if ford was smart they would'nt wait another day to bring it over here.
hope yet that we may get euro focus in teh states-in ten years!
as ford is going to start platform sharing between us and euro factories.
as teh new fusion down teh road will likely to be new euro mondeo.
so by that token would'nt they want to share platforms on as many models as possible?aka bring us teh euro focus rs,please

well if they bring over the St version also its gonna get 1.5l 170... doubt that the engine is gonna be that small, maybe that engine, for the gas sipper version... the ST... hopefully have a ST version with a much bigger engine.

Well assuming we get the ST, it'll probably follow the Euro model and have a ~150 BHP 2.0 Duratec, so I would expect a raised compression (10.2:1?) ratio in combination with free-flowing exhaust and intake, similar to the difference between the SVT Zetec and Zetec. So right there it'll have more power than the '08 Focus (~136 BHP) and weigh considerably less (just a hair over 2000 pounds, from what I've seen online) giving it a serious edge.

Meaning we most likely won't get it...why would Ford want to sell a more powerful car than its C-segment? Odds are the Fiesta will, just like the Focus, be brought over for one reason and one reason only: to offset the horrible gas mileage of all the gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs that Ford continues to crank out despite declining sales. Its highly likely that the Fiesta will be severely cheapened inside and out. Its hard to say what size engine we'll get. On one hand, Ford will want it to get good gas mileage, so the smaller the better (I would think if they take this option it would come with either the 1.4 or 1.6L Duratec,) however on the other hand Ford might not want to start a new production line over here to build a smaller engine that is only going to be used in maybe two models (assuming the Mazda 2 gets the green light), so they might just end up putting the same 2.0L Duratec in them that the Focus uses.

On one hand, Ford will want it to get good gas mileage, so the smaller the better (I would think if they take this option it would come with either the 1.4 or 1.6L Duratec,) however on the other hand Ford might not want to start a new production line over here to build a smaller engine that is only going to be used in maybe two models (assuming the Mazda 2 gets the green light), so they might just end up putting the same 2.0L Duratec in them that the Focus uses.


Which means a Focus Sport turbo kit will fit and you can have a 200whp Fiesta [clap] [deviltail]. Maybe with a little lightweighting we can REALLY make this thing fun.
Good luck
-bix

we have had the fiesta in different formats for 30 years over here the new st is good i didnt think it would take off over there because of how small it is its quite a bit bigger than a yaris.

the first thing to do with them is change the induction as the standard airbox is very restrictive, they have also been known to wear a clutch out in 2,500miles if driven hard.

hadling is awsome though

will find some pics of modded ones if you like

Any idea on how its going to look like??? Hope its not another 3Bar grill crap =(.....

I am pretty sure it will, they are doing that to the whole production line. For example, they are going to change the wagon like thing.

i rly like it....sign me up sukkas....DD fiesta FTW

Can't wait for it to get here. They better not screw it up!

Could they name it something besides "Fiesta"? I like "Focus Jr" or "MKI.5".

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=116118#2, nice clean fiesta all dressed up.... i like it....more and more. hopefully we do get it im changing it up focus for fiesta, I Excited. !!!! =)

That's a slick looking Ford...
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2006/0714/loder.fiesta1.500.jpg

Too bad they're going to F it up with that hideous Ford chrome grille.

OK I do not have the time or energy to read throught the 6 pages .. here is the lowdown:

The new Fiesta will debut next January at NAIAS as a concept. It will go on sale in the spring of 2009 - if you feel it is too late .. well it is, but this has been the plan since 2005, when Fields canceled the US version of the EcoSport.

The Fiesta will share significant engineering, sheetmetal and interior with the global (read EU) Fiesta. Ford has announced that they will not have 4 different Fiestas anymore, but just two - Chinese and Global (the latter developed in EU). EU also officially acknowledged that they are readying a US version. And we should remember, I am not talking about the current Fiesta. The new car will be based on the new B2C platform that recently debuted under the new Mazda2 - so this is a whole new generation of Fiesta.

The most the car will differ from EU version is front clip, engine choices, body style choices and options packaging.

Do not hold your breath for a diesel - at this point Ford is determined to make do with GTDI (gasoline turbocharged direct injected) engines. At this point there are no production engines from this program, but there will be by this time next year. the TwinForce GTDI D35 is one of the engines (twin turbo 3.5l V6 - 415hp, 400ft/lbs). There are others though, including GTDI D30, GTDI D20 (260+ hp) and TwinForce GTDI 6.2l V8 - all will be out in the next couple of years.

Fiesta will likely get a base engine with about 100hp and ~ 40mpg. There is a decent chance of 130-160hp performance version (D20-D23), and also an OK chance of GTDI engine getting very nice mpg/hp (say 1.0l GTDI or 120hp and 50mpg) .. however no engines have been confirmed or even implied yet officially.

Also, Ford might change their mind on diesels as the diesel market in US continues to evolve.

The design is unknown as of yet, but Ford did show it at the "Showroom of the Future" last fall ,and it was one of the cars that received overwhelmingly positive feedback - it was described as stunning.

The Brazil assembly is far from final it is likely with HTT in charge of Ford Brazil, but Mexico is much more likely at this point.

That is all for now.

I will check in when I learn now .. but for now - look forward to next January.

PS: Fiesta based SUV is a possibility - AWD and taller stance
PS2: reportedly, Ford EU liked the Reflex so much they are working with Ford NA to bring it to production around the year 2011 as the new EU Puma. US sale is very likely, maybe under a different name.

Igor

I'd jump all over a D20 version, FocusSport turbo kit and you'll be one really powerful little car. As stated previously, no hideous 3 bar grill.
-bix

From the sound of his post, there's a pretty good chance it will come with a "razor" grille...

The most the car will differ from EU version is front clip, engine choices, body style choices and options packaging.


Front clip makes it sound to me that it'll probably match the rest of the Ford lineup other than the Mustang and F-150 in sporting the crome slat grille.

From the sound of his post, there's a pretty good chance it will come with a "razor" grille...



Front clip makes it sound to me that it'll probably match the rest of the Ford lineup other than the Mustang and F-150 in sporting the crome slat grille.
you cannot make a Mondeo look like a Fusion by changing a front clip - the Fiesta will be in between the two design languages.

Igor

I'm in if it has even a slight aftermarket following