Okay...I've been pondering this over for awhile now. I like sleepers, cars that go faster than they look, that suprise people and catch them un-aware. Typically, your textbook "sleeper" is a car that looks stock but has it where it counts. But I've been thinking. After movies like The Fast and the Furious and such, lot's of people have been adding "ricey" stuff to their slow p.o.s'es and thinking they now have fast cars, trying to race people, and making the true sport compact enthusiest look like ricers in the eyes of others. So my question is, what do you think would make a better sleeper?

A) Bone stock focus. ZX3/ZX4/ZX5/Wagon. Turbo kit or supercharged, I/H/E, hiflow, built engine, LSD, etc. R-compound (or close to) tires on stock rims. Upgrade springs, struts, rollbars, brakes, etc. Basically a stock focus with the exeption of the exhaust tip and slightly lowered.

B) ZX3/ZX4/ZX5/Wagon. Again, built motor, turbo kit or S/C, I/H/E, etc. Big FMIC. Again, upgraded supension, brakes, LSD. 17 or 18" rims. Again, good tires. Full body kit (like an F2 RS, Roush, Saleen, etc). Wing. Neon underbodies. Race seats. Customized interior. Thumpin stereo. Stickers to advertise parts (like say, Falken, Eibach, AEM, MBRP/Borla/whatever, Streetglow/Lowglow/whatever, etc etc...)

I'm just thinking out loud I guess...

mines kinda close.... stock svt suspension. borla center exit, blacked out tails and 15% all around. euro svt rims. so only two real exterior mods. but u can see my a-pillar pod from outside. so that kinda gives it away

i think A would make a great sleeper, but it could have some nice clean looking rims maybe, or even svt rims. but if you dont really care about what the rims look like, a would be my definition of sleeper focus.

Sleeper ALL the way. In my opinion, you shouldn't be advertising what you have to the whole world. If you know your foci is putting down 300 whp or whatnot, then that's all the matters. Adding exterior mods just gains unwanted attention.

Not only that, isn't it just fun when people think "it's just a focus" and then you walk up and down them? [woot]

I say sleeper ftw.

option A.

option A !!!!!

A (which happens to describe my car)

^^^

And pretty much my car.

Go sleeper

^^^ Mine was a sleeper as well.

Loved every second of it.

How bout a turboed and sprayed 1989 maxima sedan with bullet holes and a latter strapped to the roof rack. [:)~] Trap speeds around 105+
Sorry just remembering the good ol' days.

Choice "A" anyday.

sleeper all the way! nothing better than surprising someone... especially all the people who say "its just a focus, why'd you get a grandma car?"

I say sleeper ftw

"A" all the way! That's why I think of my car as "Stealth Gray" [race]

Well... as a text book definition of sleeper: option A would do it.

But... if you want to completely throw people in another direction with them thinking, "Bah... freak'n ricer... lemme show this jabroney his car's slow." then you smoke their ass... then Option B.

However... the Fuzz is going to be the deciding factor for me. (option A)

option A...thats what im slowly working towards...but i got rims anyways, my stock ones were bent

Oh, I don't think you have to be bone stock to follow option A. I have rims, and the SVT front bumper. Part of it is the color of the car... my brother refers to that bright yellow as "Arrest Me Yellow", then there's "Ticket Me Red" [clap].
I wasn't really thrilled with Liquid Gray to start with (I bought the car used), but it's grown on me. The rims are gun-metal and closely match the body color, they look nice, but they don't scream "Look at Me!" either.
But if you're driving around attracting attention by whatever means that I wouldn't consider that "sleeper".
I suppose the ultimate Focus sleeper would be a slightly lowered and SC/turbo-ed wagon, after all who expects to get blown away by a wagon???[deviltail]

sleep it out

Option A. [sleep]

Oh, I don't think you have to be bone stock to follow option A. I have rims, and the SVT front bumper. Part of it is the color of the car... my brother refers to that bright yellow as "Arrest Me Yellow", then there's "Ticket Me Red" [clap].
I wasn't really thrilled with Liquid Gray to start with (I bought the car used), but it's grown on me. The rims are gun-metal and closely match the body color, they look nice, but they don't scream "Look at Me!" either.
But if you're driving around attracting attention by whatever means that I wouldn't consider that "sleeper".
I suppose the ultimate Focus sleeper would be a slightly lowered and SC/turbo-ed wagon, after all who expects to get blown away by a wagon???[deviltail]

I agree even my sleeper ZX3 has SVT bumpers, Csvt rims, Good Hood and everything looks stock if anything, I guess I should say if you do ta[:)][:)][:)][:)]ll mods that most people do not see as "aftermarket" but us then it is still a sleeper.

I'd say, choice A with some primered and or dented body work. A broken side mirror dangling from the door will help as well. Sure you can't see from that mirror, but people will often let you merge knowing you have nothing to lose.

I suppose the ultimate Focus sleeper would be a slightly lowered and SC/turbo-ed wagon, after all who expects to get blown away by a wagon???[deviltail]

Talk to me next summer. MSS Turbo in my future, with eibach pro-kit-plus suspension and fr2 cams this coming summer [thumb]

Option A all the way!

my vote is sleeper, or minimal customization, i say a nice set of 17's, lowered, tint is all you need for exterior mods

SLEEPER! The option A is the best.. that's what my Focus is.. completely stock exterior (except for the OBX racing muffler) but no one noticed it though.

Im sleeper all the way. SLEEPER FTW[headbang] [headbang]

sounds sneaky... do it!!

well i lean toward the more, clean look. you can tell its customized, but, no wings or neons or stickers. as long as things flow well, then im all for it. now with us foci owners, it doesnt matter if we rice it out or go with the clean look or sleeper look, everyone is gonna underestimate us regardless. and then when we do have a good lookin focus, they are gonna say "why did u spend ur money on a p.o.s. focus"? then thats when u smoke em.

I'd say Sleeper for sure! But on what can be visible from the ouside, nice light-weight wheels (17") with Z rated tires, lowered, Exhaust and perhaps an SVT Air dam or the Mach 1 air dam. That'd convice me it was pretty much stock. Alot of people buy wheels for daily driver cars with no power. I wouldnt assume anything by it seeing em. Plus it'd look pretty sweet! IMO

I have a sleeper so option A

Volvo 240 wagon.

With a twin-turbo LS1. :cool:

So yeah, sleeper all the way.

Any Volvo wagon with a V8 is a great sleeper. Heck, even the turbo wagons are pretty potent. I can't tell you how many a Neon, Civic, etc. I smoked with my 86 Volvo 740 turbo wagon back in 01-02. Great car. Even better wass the reaction I got from smoking someone who was a little too overconfident in their car with my ratty mid 80's Volvo wagon (I took the turbo badging off, plus the car had standard GLE trim).

Nobody ever really expects performance from any 1980's vintage Volvo, especially if you let body and paint issues go. A few dents here and there, scratches, etc.

i had a 1994 taurus sho a while back. thats an official sleeper.

i had a 94 escort 4-door with a 200 hp turbo, no exterior mods, so my vote.....SLEEPER FTW

I think something in between the two options would look good...

Put up some bigger wheels and tires and just keep the spoke design simple (like svt wheels for example). And instead of a full-out body kit, get a lip kit like the one from Seeda. And just skip the decals and wing.

But that's just my opinion. That's what im workin' towards on my car

i had a 94 escort 4-door with a 200 hp turbo, no exterior mods, so my vote.....SLEEPER FTW

man, that would be embaressing as hell to loose to that car.

sleeper! sleeper! maybe we should post our sleeper foci pics here?

sleeper! sleeper! maybe we should post our sleeper foci pics here?

You read my mind!

man, that would be embaressing as hell to loose to that car.

awe, just awe. everyone i beat just stood there with their mouths open. then i blew it up....[V]

sleeper= built/boosted/tuned/susp/ stock wheels with drag radials

Sleeper baby. But not just a ratty-lookin sleeper. I like a clean, nice-looking sleeper. Nice rims, subtle body kit. SUBTLE is the key word!!! Definitely NOT a riced-out mobile with underbody neons and an aluminum wing and limo tint. You might as well just spray paint the side of your car with "PLEASE GIVE ME A TICKET!!!!!!!!" Sleepers are the way to kill 'em. Can't wait till I can kill the SRT-4's with my baby. That'll be the day.

Sleeper all the way. No adverts from me! Let em find out the hard way if they really want to know. And John Law DOES NOT need to know what I have! As fast as my car maybe, it's not faster than a Motorola radio...[read]

FULLBLOWN, yeah i read ur mind. haha.. why not we all post sleeper focus here? that will be interesting..

sleeper is good, with subtle mods. mods so subtle that if would take a Focus afficionado (sp?), or another car buff just to realize that anything was modded at all. Thats kinda what my last car looked like. You could tell it wasnt like other foci, it looked way better, but the differences didn't jump out at you.

I love the look of a sleeper. It is just more fun to mess with people.

Sleeper FTW! I decided to go sleeper with mine for a couple reasons. One cuz it's an auto and can't handle much extra power without dumping more money into it than I'm willing to. The other reason is cuz for some reason bone stock and with an auto my ZX3 seems to beat Integras with exhaust and CAI. I don't know if this is common or not but it surprised me. One guy I hung right with had an Integra with CAI. full exhaust from header out the back, TB and a tune. When he checked my car out and realized it was stock with an auto he was pissed. I decided then and there I was going to start developind Zetec parts that made the car look stock to the untrained eye. Reminds me of the old street racing days (imaginary street racing days since it's illegal and I would never break the speed limit or spin my tires on a public street) when we would go so far as to spend big bucks porting stock cast iron manifolds to flow the same as headers and run the Nitrous up under the intake and hide sneaky pete bottles under the back seat. That's my idea of a true sleeper. Looks stock inside and out.

Anyone have any pics of their sleepers?

How's this

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2579656/1

Make sure to hide your gauges when making a sleeper.

Can't hide mine since they're on the pillar.

or tint your windows...

I think we surprise everyone regardless since the general stereotype of our car is that it is slow as hell

exactly....most people seem to think of the focus as nothing more than a rental car, or grocery getter...

new to the forum, first post...here goes it! Option A is way better no question about it; can't drive fast with the cops staring at an ugly ass wing (especialy on a hatchback)! as for my current car, i own a corrado that looks fairly stock but isn't; sort of a sleeper cuz it looks stock, but then again, you don't see too many cars that look like a Corrado. by the way, i'm looking for a nice stealthy SVT focus euro pkg (preferibly in unstealthy orange or yellow). wouldnt be able to buy it until the rado is gone, unless someone wanted to trade for my Corrado SLC.

Get the full SVT body kit (front bumper, rear bumper, spoiler, side skirts). It's enough to make ur car look fast, still hold sleeper status, and not be a ricer( underglows are pretty rice). If u do anything to the interior try to aslso get ur hands on the SVT parts. The SVT Focus is probably the best sleeper car aroun looks wise.

Sleeper for certain.

Having a stock body is all right. But i think its nice to have your focus look clean. You know rims, clear turns, and corners, tinted windows, lower it a little, I think it would still be considered a sleeper just look alot cleaner.

sleeper for sure, stock looking, lowered just to give them a clue because you cant leave them completely in the dark, thats just mean

i'll be the battle scarred, yet kitted car running near you. (all color matched tho, i aint a complete ricer, lol) it's surprising what a few scratches and dirt do to make people think it's beaten down. besides any car without a paint defect somwhere is a trailer queen. and at the cost of paint i'm not gonna respray my car evrey two years to keep the rock chips to a minimum. its a daily driver, so deal. besides its fun to see the look on peoples faces when you walk them in anything really.

a "track whore" is the best. all of "option A" on a junk yard POS. Im taking mismatching body color panels, some battle scars like a nice gash in the side. That would be a nice FU surprise to everyone at the track.

oh a friday night specail? yeah that would do. but youd get ragged on even worse. but vengence would be sweeter.

Sleepers are my favs. I love it when someone has a totally stock looking fo fo, and has the thing tuned up/cleaned up, and super fast. Something fun, and it keeps the cops at bay when you don't have the big body kits and crazy flashy paint jobs.

Sleeper, but I would like a lip kit, rims and some other little things on the exterior just for my own personal touch.

Would an svt with aluminum fuel door, mild tint, sunroof deflector,and clear corners be sorta sleeperish?

Although the term sleeper is for quicker/faster stock cars, It doesn't hurt to put a small effort into a sleeper as long as you don't overdue it; IMO.

Option A for sure, this coming from someone with a body kit, however I stuck with the Pro DMT kit so it is really nothing wild, no stickers just the kit and tint, and SVT wheels. I also no longer have headlight covers.

Kinda sounds funny but alot of people try to race you because of your wheels......My car looks completely stock except for my wheels...I bet if I had stock wheels no one would try to race me...

Sleepers are b/a. But i like a little dress for the focus cause i think they look ugly un modded

160whp, only thing that give it away is the exhaust note and slight drop. It still got the facatory 16s. cd player, spark plug wires. only thing im going to add is a european wing and some euro svt rims. If i get a procharger like i plan. all the piping getting painted flat black.

I voted for customized, but I prefer the stock European look.
Which might as well be a bodykit over here, but its far more subtle than some of the kits that make your car look like a Transformer. And far better looking than anything available here.

I like sleepers, but only to a point. What drives me up the wall is someone who (for example) buys a STi and then swaps all of the STi-specific parts out with parts from a 2.5 RS.

My sleeper
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nitetimebolher/IMG_1345.jpg

No Gauges, Black Intercooler, Super Quiet, No big showy exhaust or fancy exhaust tips, and stock bumpers. BTW the engine bay looks as stock as it can get, thanks to Focussport's kit.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/buntabubba/th_MVI_0720.jpg (http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b311/buntabubba/?action=view&current=MVI_0720.flv)



It's so sleeper that when i run diff cars, they dont even realize that it's boosted coz it's so quiet.

It might not look sleeper to u guys, but everyone that i know who sees the car thinks i only have wheels done to the car. I should take some pics when i roll around on my stock 15's LOL!

^
'02 Facelift/ST170...good taste [thumb]

I had the front end for about four months...the bumper and lower grille got taken out by a snowdrift last February.

http://www.geojensen.com/images/Focus/eurofront_2.jpg

I have the front and rear bumpers (again [rolleyes]) that'll be going on this spring. Along with a new hood (Cervini) and new fenders adapted for the Euro sidemarkers...after my jackass little brother put my car into a ditch [?|]

I can't drive sleepers, I like loud cars first thing and I love rims, lot of the body kits don't look to flashy so you could pass it off to someone that didn't know as being pretty stock.

Mine will be a sleeper after i install the nitrous kit. An almost stock engine with quiet exhaust, lowered slightly.[strongman]

I like the subtle touches of "I will destroy you" on a car. Sleepers are always the funnest by far, whoever look at my ride; rims, tint, velocity stack (dead center now flushed into bumper) and a 5000 watt system. Still looks very stock now that most of the stickers are gone, but I kill honda's out of boredom.

here is a sleeper i personally saw at woodward and i got to talk the guy about it too.

it was a el camino, complete peice of shit, rust everywhere it looked horrible. you can hear the thing comming from a mile away not because of the exhuast because of a ear pericing belt whine. so everyone started to chuckle at this hillbillies old pride and joy of a car/truck cruck. we all thought he was slippin a belt etc. so he rolls up and this wise ass goes whatchya got in that thing. so he parks and we all huddle around and he takes the tood off and reveals a $50k procharged bigblock race motor pushin like 20psi with a built drivetrain. and the crowd goes silent. then everyone starts to ask him questions

when it was time to leave he strolls out of the parking lot then lauches so hard and just takes off. it was easily a 10 second car.

it was ALL go and no show, it looked like a peice of crap that someone dragged out of a barn.

Hmm i think i have the sleeper idea down good.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/postman101/DSC01720.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/postman101/DSC01725.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/postman101/DSC01694.jpg
I even made sure the gauges were in a hard to spot for other cars. But i would like to change the looks soon. It sure is fun to be a sleeper lol.

custom,,who says ya cant have both...

I voted custom.... but it has to be within reason, you don't want a ginourmous STi wing on the back of your focus (for several reasons) and if the car is riced out (stickers, big body kit and wing, 18" wheels, powder blue or neon pink paint job) then its not a sleeper, however if you were to do an RS conversion (so in this case 18's are ok) or some major manufacturers body kit (Saleen, SVT, Roush) and then do all the performance realted items (NEON IS NOT A PERFORMANCE RELATED, OR SLEEPER ITEM) you could get away with it, but if the car is riced out and goes fast, its not a sleeper, its a car someone spent as much on the body as they did the important stuff

I am kind of torn between the two. I like the idea of a sleeper, but I also like the looks of a customized Focus. As long as it doesn't look rice, I vote for a tasteful-looking customized Focus.

sleeper FTW

TLS_BMXs car is the ultimate sleeper

ya can join the cookie cutter sleeper crew,,but i prefer customized

If you go sleeper make sure to have the baby seat in the back.. Totally rattles there cages when young mom or dad takes out the seeeeedan and smokes them..

I know nothing about sleepers though and had no knowledge of a sea foam green 4dr chevelle with a aluminum block 480ci Rodack in it.. :) (Yes it had some dings in the body work and a child safety seat in the back, and slicks in the back with No2 bottle in the trunk as well. Ever see a 4dr 70's car pull a front tire off the ground?. heh...)

Sleepers are great...although my Sangria Red ZX3 is going to end up w/ a body kit at some point, since my front bumper is cracked. Just a small one now, but small cracks on plastic turn into BIG cracks [bigcry] Gotta fix a rust spot on the driver's door, too...

sleeper to the max... on the outside. gutted interior with rollcage and race seats on the inside (if you've got the power to back you up). no kit, no wing, no bullshit.

I admire and envy anybody who has the time, money, skills, ambition, and interest to build a custom.

The thing is, I'm an old fart; I'd feel silly crusing around in a tricked out lime green car, regardless of how cool I thought it was. Now if I was still twenty something, I'd be fine with it.

For me, I feel good about my newly very slightly badd-a$$-looking sleeper. I'm working up a good coating of brake dust on the front wheels- something to hint at "humph, not only CAN I run hard, I DO run hard". Once the wheels look right, then I'll revert to just putt-putting around as usual...

BTW- What ever happened to all the fart-can exhausts? All of a sudden I don't see them anymore.

BTW- What ever happened to all the fart-can exhausts? All of a sudden I don't see them anymore.

If you want them back I will GLADLY trade you living spaces.

I say sleeper, but not stock.
I'm slowly working towards making my car look clean and smooth, but not obviously tricked out.

The best one would be a Wagon with a huge turbo and a 200 shot of nos [woot]

Sleeper ftw

I always like a sleeper. With the wagon, it'll really look like a sleeper. If you have an SVT, it would look like it has "some" stuff done to it and the stock models do but, you could not do a thing to the exterior of an SVT and do all kinda mad stuff to the engine and no one would know the diff. I'm really likin the SVT's the more I'm in mine and around em. [;)]

Put the biggest ugliest riciest body kit on a turbo/supercharged V8 Focus... Everyone who's anyone will think it's just another POS and will laugh at you because it looks like a turd. Until you sweep them under the rug.

I like the idea of a mostly stock looking street fighter! sleeper FTW![race]

The best scenario for a sleeper is one that looks like a normal car, but when you get very close you can see the difference. Example: a black car with a stock carbon hood hard to see, or Plain single color black, silver or gunmetal wheels, Mild lowering kit, things like that. A ricer would call it the OEM JDM look.

Sleeper

Sleeper FTW

Put the biggest ugliest riciest body kit on a turbo/supercharged V8 Focus... Everyone who's anyone will think it's just another POS and will laugh at you because it looks like a turd. Until you sweep them under the rug.

been done , there is a super riced out focus with a v8 lurking around here.

Sleeper FTW

Zombie thread FTW!!


IMO a sleeper is one that you can drive on city streets, through parks and such, and no one even looks up. For example, the only time I think anyone would look at my car is when either I'm accelerating hard (obvious) or when I'm engine braking down a hill in 2nd gear. It sounds really loud to me in the cabin, I can only imagine what it sounds like outside...

I love me a sleeper.. I even thought of making a license plate w/ all Z's but that would kinda defeat the purpose of it being a sleeper lol.
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Yea I had to vote towards stock with a lot of power, I love rolling up to a line and they look and laugh or something, and then get blown away and have to follow and ask what the hell. lol

I like the idea of a sleeper much better than the idea of a riced out car.

But, overall, I prefer tasteful mods. It's too easy to mod a car and make it look nice and tasteful.

im more of a sleeper guy myself too, i dont mind a few exterior touches, but not too much.

I had a friend with a built 1992 Civic coupe: B16 swap with forged internals, LSD, beefy turbo, exhaust and suspension. It had the same factory teal paint with steel rims and plastic hubcaps. It looked stock although it did seem like it may be sitting low, but it made 220hp at the wheels. I thought it was bad ass. If I ever had the desire/time/money to build my Focus up like that I'd want it to look bone stock.

I say A. My car is an SES with the stock appearance, so it's got nice wheels, etc, but I'm not going to put any stickers or flames or any of that crap. I don't want someone to steal the car because they think it's got expensive parts to chop apart and sell...

The biggest hint that it's modded is my exhaust, which is pretty loud, but aside from that and a wider set of wheels and suspension work, which to me is all clean stuff, it'd be pretty much stock appearance.

so I wonder when Ill make all that money I need for the real good performance stuff....

mines kinda close.... stock svt suspension. borla center exit, blacked out tails and 15% all around. euro svt rims. so only two real exterior mods. but u can see my a-pillar pod from outside. so that kinda gives it away

no such thing as euro svt rims. svt was not available in europe we had the st170 (was only a 2.0 duratec st engine)

no such thing as euro svt rims. svt was not available in europe we had the st170 (was only a 2.0 duratec st engine)

The SVT had the option of the european appearance package. So euro SVT rims would be the 15 spoke rims off a EAP SVT...

PWNED.
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The SVT had the option of the european appearance package. So euro SVT rims would be the 15 spoke rims off a EAP SVT...

+rep for you. Way to hold your ground!

I don't have the heart to -rep the other poster...[:(]

I think a cool sleeper would be a V8 conversion in a sedan focus. People will be looking around for the V8 car and it'll be too late when they realize it was your little focus.

I like sleepers with a few mods that you would actually need.

a is what i would consider a sleeper. my cars in the middle its got a blacked out and lowered oem look but i still have stock wheels that are just painted but my exhaust and ebay projectors give it away. getting machs and got a new muffler so it'll blend in a little better

Honestly, here's how I feel. A Focus (while being a great car) is not a sleeper in stock form. Sleeper implies hard-hitting performance with a rather everyday (for lack of a better word) performance. The Focus without modifications isn't a hard-hitting performance machine, therefore it can't be a sleeper.

Now a stock looking Focus with a supercharger or turbo is a sleeper, but a Focus with blacked out taillights and rattle-canned rims is not.

My $.02. Take it for what it's worth. (Very little [:p])

THIS with 400hp. that would be epic.

http://www.ksl.com/emedia/its/slc/2119/211965/21196533.jpg?filter=ksl/gallery3

Def go sleeper

Honestly, here's how I feel. A Focus (while being a great car) is not a sleeper in stock form. Sleeper implies hard-hitting performance with a rather everyday (for lack of a better word) performance. The Focus without modifications isn't a hard-hitting performance machine, therefore it can't be a sleeper.

Now a stock looking Focus with a supercharger or turbo is a sleeper, but a Focus with blacked out taillights and rattle-canned rims is not.

My $.02. Take it for what it's worth. (Very little [:p])

was that supposed to be a jab towards me because my wheels aint rattle canned bro i know how to paint right now their in primer and im mixing up paint to go paint em. i havent rocked the blacked out tails since i got my apcs from jmiller like 6 months ago . and as of now my cars slow but i just ordered one of the last things ill need for bewst so it will be turboed and im changing it back to a more oem look itll look like a lowered black focus with painted stockers to anyone whose not familiar with the focus but itll have a little snail secret hiding under the hood[burnout]

well it's not lol.....

was that supposed to be a jab towards me because my wheels aint rattle canned bro i know how to paint right now their in primer and im mixing up paint to go paint em. i havent rocked the blacked out tails since i got my apcs from jmiller like 6 months ago . and as of now my cars slow but i just ordered one of the last things ill need for bewst so it will be turboed and im changing it back to a more oem look itll look like a lowered black focus with painted stockers to anyone whose not familiar with the focus but itll have a little snail secret hiding under the hood[burnout]

Nope.

Sleeper all the way. I like subtle changes that HINT that there might be something going on like you're trying to hide it.

Things like black alloy wheels or black tips on upgraded, high flow exhaust. Everything else can be hidden under the hood.

I saw an otherwise stock looking Accord like that a couple days ago that looked pretty sweet without being all Fast and Furious.

On my 2nd gen SES all I have done so far is blacked out all three lights in the back black eyelids where all the excess headlight is, and all my emblems are black background and a silver FORD. O yeah and 005 SES registry. But would getting the RK sport wing throw.it away from sleeper status. Mind you this is only an exterior question.

On my 2nd gen SES all I have done so far is blacked out all three lights in the back black eyelids where all the excess headlight is, and all my emblems are black background and a silver FORD. O yeah and 005 SES registry. But would getting the RK sport wing throw.it away from sleeper status. Mind you this is only an exterior question.

Have you swapped in a 5.0 from a Mustang? What about turbo'd your engine?

If not, your vehicle is not a sleeper nor can it be.


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And I repeat this is only an exterior question. I just wanted to know if the RK sport wing would be too much?