For thos that haven't seen my other post........

Well today I went to Tom to drop off my car for the start of the installation of the newly fabricated 2.3 Stroker on a CGI Short Block.

THis car is going to be crazy with hopefully nearly 320Hp, and 260 Pounds of torque.

Tom and I are eagerly waiting to see the results! Next week, it should be up and driving, then comes the tune.....

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_01_b.jpg

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_02_b.jpg

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_03_b.jpg

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_04_b.jpg

nice!

only 320?? with a CGI block you could push a lot more hp than that! nice engine though

Well I am using a SuperCharger, I can only push so much with that... Like I said, I can only imagine what I could push if I had a Turbo. [:D]

Perhaps if I upgrade the SuperCharger later in life I can do more HP and TQ.

Awww no fun. I wanna see the internals!!!

Well if the other guy engine is still the way I saw it when I went up there yesturday, I will take some pictures. in about another week or so.

Are those numbers going to be with the Procharger 15lb pulley and the 5.7" OD pulley???

I'm assuming about 320 before the 5.7" OD Pully. Me and Tom both won't know for sure until we get it on the dyno. It will definately be exciting! BUt with the pully, it will easily make the 300 mark.

How much does all this set you back?

hehe....the engine itself or everything that I have put into it so far? These are pretty much the prices I paid for everything. Everything is pretty much new, except for the cam gears. If you were to buy used parts, I sure that the prices would be cheaper, but I wanted all new stuff to make the first 2.3 working without any problems.

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_Price.jpg

Freaking WOW!!! Thats all I gotta say. Seriously anticipating what this car is gonna do.

You've almost caught me in the money spent catagory.... but I'm still on a stock motor.

I sent Tom the info you guys needed for the install today... Good Luck and keep us informed....

PS: I paid Tom to not make you as much power as I do [neener]

You gave him the "how to" on the boost-a-pump?

LOL....yeah but see, he's going to use that money to make my new 3" Exhaust. And I piad him even more to counter anything that anybody says! [giggle]

I would love to see a picture of the crank if you have one. Unless Tom wants to not do that, I would respect that. That should be fun!!!

You're looking at it, in the first picture. It's the big black disc. 5.7" of it. [:)]

I don't keep track of money spent on my car and I suggest no one does. Just set a budget and stay within it.

This stops me from thinking I have ever spent TOO much money at one time.

Oh I totally agree^^^ I did it once on a CBX motorcycle I did years ago. I swore to never do it again. I added it all up and it made me sick LOL. Still have the bike, too!

You're looking at it, in the first picture. It's the big black disc. 5.7" of it. [:)]

Ummmm thats the Crank Pulley. Not the crank. Billet I hope for that price. Also what kind of rods is he using?

You gave him the "how to" on the boost-a-pump?

LOL....yeah but see, he's going to use that money to make my new 3" Exhaust. And I piad him even more to counter anything that anybody says! [giggle]

Yea, I gave him the "how to" plus I remembered a few extra things and called him that night with them.

I like helping others make horsepower[strongman]

Sorry FOcus_3XZ, I thought you meant the pully itself. Here are the specs for the internals. Everything is custom made billet by Focus-Power. http://www.focus-power.com/view.php?showme=Stroker_Short_Block

AND...thanks for your help John! Much appreciated! Perhaps you should send some instructions to Kenne Bell and have them include the instructions along with the Mustangs'

I know who makes it. I just wanted to see what the crank, rods and pistons look like.

geezus dude where do you get your $$$$$$$$????!

In any case, I will vote for you for ROTM fo sho.

A nice fat loan along with a re-enlistment bonus. [:D]

Geez, now I don't feel so bad for spending 8k on parts for my entire car.

cant wait to see final product

holy bejeesus......if I had unlimited funds, that is EXACTLY what I was gonna do......damn......

lol.....I don't blame ya. Now for my next bonus. Turbo!

so what happens to the C-2 PC????

What else?! Sell it! [:D]

Rudel did you ever find out if you have the C2 blower? Also if you take any more pics, take some of the other 2 strokers toms building.

shit, take picts of EVERYTHING in Tom's building...[hihi]

I do have the C2 version. ProCharger sent some wrong parts to Tom, which delayed the installation last week, the C2 ones Tom should have now.

Hopefully by the end of the week or the start of the next week, I will be heading up there for the dyno. I will get some pictures for ya.


lol HaveBlue. On the 31st of March, Focal-Point is trying for another GTG at Toms. We can take many pictures then!

question, Wont you make more than 320? A 2.3 should spin forever making more boost, right? or am I missing something. Just curious, i wanted to try the same thing. ASS HOLE. LOL

Man, after seeing you in September at Tom's you were talking about doing all of this but I wasn't sure it'd happen. Now you're almost done!

Is this going to be a drag only car?

very nice pics

if I deploy (lookign like it) I am seriously thinking about going to tom and dropping off the car with a PROcharger kit and saying "give me 300 WHP daily driven".........I figure I will have 20-35K saved up if I do it right........[;)]

@ zetecfreak...

320 is the probable Hp I will make. That's without the 5.7" Pully. Now adding the pully, we are unsure of what we will make. The 2.3 is newly designed Zetec with a ported head, a full 3" exhaust, boost-a-bump, billet main caps, custom rods, crank, and pistons. Who knows, maybe I'll make 350 and 300Tq.

If I make 300Tq, I would be an even more happy camper!

Tom has a simple math problem for doing Hp. Although I will not say it's accuriate. You take the HP you want, divide it by 2.0. Then multiply it by 2.3. I beleive that's how it goes.

@ Blane
Yeah, I definately wasn't joking around....lol. There's a nother GTG on the 31st of March, in case you didn't get the news! Definately come again! You can see the beast in action on the dyno. [:)]

@ Brian
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed them. When I go back to Tom's sometime this week, I will be posting more. Do check back for updates!

@HaveBlue
If you seriously trying for 300Hp with a 2.0, I hope you have some planning and parts list ready! I haven't seen a SuperCharger reach the 300 mark without the right gear on a 2.0. If I were you, definately get the 2.3 stroker, CGI short block, 3" exhaust, and YOU pick either SuperCharger or Turbo. <-- That's up to you! [:D]

Jumpin Jesus thats alot of money!!! Nearly what the car cost when it was new!!

Your telling me! lololol.

Update

Engine and SC are in
Torson , Fly , Clutch is in
J&S is hooked up
Fuel Gauge is hooked up
Boost Gauge is hooked up
A/F Is hooked up
MSD is all in

Hope to start it today or tommorrow

Tom

Hopefully you'll add anticarjack and/or gps tracking to protect your invest ment. As soon as I'd started modding my SVTF, in went anticarjack.

are you going to set the rev limiter at 7500???

That kind of engine build is like a dream for me. You're a lucky man. I wish I didnt have so much debt, I would love to do this.

Update

Engine and SC are in
Torson , Fly , Clutch is in
J&S is hooked up
Fuel Gauge is hooked up
Boost Gauge is hooked up
A/F Is hooked up
MSD is all in

Hope to start it today or tommorrow

Tom

Damn, If my wife didn't have a dental appointment today, I'd be up there right now waiting for it's first start! I was about to call you in 15min Tom, but thanks for the update. Did you get my message about powering the gauges? hehe. And so the EGT and other Oil Pressure will be hooked up later I suppose?

@ The others
I'm not sure if the rev wil be set to 7500. I don't think there is a need. But if it does get set, then so be it.

I wouldn't consider myself lucky to have this money. To me, its as if I'm using the military's money to buy all this stuff, while at the same time, I'm taking advantage of the free college, and putting left over money in for retirement. Sometimes I wish I wouldn't have to go this route for college and such, but I chose to do so (since I didn't have money), and I am not upset about it.

What would be a great company to go with for the Anti-Carjack systems?

keep us informed- a vid and pics would be great when you get it done

It is up and running and i took it for a short drive today , More to come

Tom

how does it run? you GOTTA give us more than that short answer Tom......[hihi]

I'll let you know Tuesday. [:D]

Lo-jack

yeah i would def do that

Looks great, but it's not available in Illinois. [:(]

is the next meet at Tom's too? I wonder if my head/intake/direct port will be done and installed by then... ;)

Just an update....My car is sitting at the local muffler shop getting the 3" Header back exhaust, but a guy there put the wrong size glass-pack on it and now we must wait until Tuesday for some driving around and tuning.

March 31st is the next Focal-Point GTG at Tom's.

Glass-pack? You do know how loud that'll be right? lol

hehehehehe.....[:D]

oh, he KNOWS.....


I will REQUIRE an in car as well as a drive by VIDEO of this..........thing......you have created.......[:D]

Ask, and thou shall receive!

sweet......yeah, if I deploy, I will seriously look into a 2.3 stroker, CGI, and....aw hell....Turbo.......lol.....

When is it due to get straped on the dyno?

lol...wow man this car is going to be insane. Drive it out to san diego!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/esi-slowboy/homer_drooling.gif

Just an update....My car is sitting at the local muffler shop getting the 3" Header back exhaust, but a guy there put the wrong size glass-pack on it and now we must wait until Tuesday for some driving around and tuning.

March 31st is the next Focal-Point GTG at Tom's.


memories of my old 2000 with a FC header and the MBRP glass packed... Sounded like a biplane going through a tunnel! Cops are going to LOVE you.. and your neighbors too.. lol

I live on base housing too...LOL

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/esi-slowboy/homer_drooling.gif

that is EXACTLY how I feel when I leave my G/F's house in the wee hours of the night.....then have to drive back to the barracks....

Ask, and thou shall receive!

hehehe, okay. Can I take your car down the strip in Charlotte (if open)? :D

Looks great, but it's not available in Illinois. [:(] I use clairon,but 3 years old. Will let you know about new models when I get info (sorry about that).

lol@blanezx3- dont you wish

so, how's the car running?? any picts/clips or remarks so far?

I wanna see the dyno... Mike said it sounded bad ass... Wish I coulda been there to drool a little...

i guess i cant make fun of my coworker anymore for spending 7k on his head work, pistons rods and cams, and turbo kit for his RSX type-s ....but he is laying down 465hp 320tq, 17k that a down payment on a house

^^^^^ I thought for a second you were saying that Rudel ended up making 465hp and 320tq!!! I almost sharted!!!

hahaha
i seen alot of internals
lol

damn!!!

We started tuning it on the dyno yesterday , the low end numbers were very good TQ at 2100 was 132 and by 2400 was 150 , i dont think there is any Zetec making those TQ numbers down low , we hope to finish it today on the dyno so maybe some numbers tonight

He running the C2 PC at 15psi but we think the SC may be running out of steam on the top with the bigger engine , more tuning before we know for sure

Tom

Good numbers... I cant wait to see the finished product.

UM...holy shit....

my Dyno with my SVT was 133Tq, 150.9HP.........at 7,000RPM.....

so you have at low 2,300 what I have at redline........jeebus......

i'll buy the procharger if u decide it cant handle the motor.
what do u want for it, 500 well sold, lol

Ok tuning is done and numbers are in. . . . But ill let Rudel post them its his toy , I will say that there isnt anyone else with a PC breakinng the 300HP mark or the 250TQ mark

Im going to say something no one has ever seen me say , Im Impressed by the way this thing feels , It pulls like a train for a SC , this car will give a turbo charged Focus a very hard time

Im sure he will post a dyno in a day or 2

Tom

320 HP!!! That is pretty large for a focus!! More than double mine (although mine is all stock with the 2.3 liter engine).

Out of curiosity, what would your 0-60 time be with 320 hp and that much torque (assuming you don't peel out terribly :p)

Sounds like a beast to me but i think you just settled my desision on the topic i asked you earlier. Won't it be nice to have tuned two 300+whp procharged foci. One a 2.3 strocker and one a 2.0 zetec.

can't wait to see the dyno

Im sure he will post a dyno in a day or 2

Tom

Dont make me call you........

Won't it be nice to have tuned two 300+whp procharged foci. One a 2.3 stroker and one a 2.0 zetec?

How about 3... an SVT too!! Assuming I keep my kit, I think when I get Tom to tune me I'll (hopefully) be right at that 300 mark too!!

I have a feeling that when Rudel posts this dyno/numbers it is going to be absolutley RIDICULOUS to look at!!!!!!! I'm excited!

damn that's gotta be insane...

Insane is a good word for it , For a SC this thing is a beast, I have drove the PC with 15psi before and it just isnt the same , this beast is so close to what a BIG high HP/TQ turbo pulls like that i wouldnt have known it wasent to just ride in it

The TQ this thing has . . . It pulls like a train


Tom

Insane is a good word for it , For a SC this thing is a beast, I have drove the PC with 15psi before and it just isnt the same , this beast is so close to what a BIG high HP/TQ turbo pulls like that i wouldnt have known it wasent to just ride in it

The TQ this thing has . . . It pulls like a train


Tom

So what kind of power could you expect if you went with a turbo on this motor rather than an SC? Is the motor not set up for a turbo?

Sure it would , This customer chose a PC so thats what we went with , I cannot wait to see the 2.3 stroker with a turbo and NA

Tom

If I get that new job... the turbo stroker may be in the cards.

If I get that new job... the turbo stroker may be in the cards.

You would!!!! j/k

You guys ready? [:p]

nope

put out or get out [hihi]

ok am ready now

After 37 Dyno Runs, my feet are exhausted! [:D] Let me tell you something guys, the Torque in the low RPM range is a blast! Nearly 152Lb and that's not even the ProCharger doing that. That's the 2.3 Stroker doing that, ALONE

Hey John, I over heard Ray that I could possibly make 350Hp.[neener] What was that pully size I needed Tom? hehehe....oh and thaks for the help John, it really is much appreciated!

And definately Tom. He worked over-time to help meet my deadline, and I really really appreciate that a lot. Had fun! Saw suprises, and now......waiting for the rain to go away. [bawling]

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/Dyno_March_01_2007.jpg

NICE......for a SC especially.....

oh, if ONLY I get that civilian job after I get out........I'm telling ya, watch out....

You've almost caught me in the money spent catagory.... but I'm still on a stock motor.

I sent Tom the info you guys needed for the install today... Good Luck and keep us informed....

PS: I paid Tom to not make you as much power as I do [neener]

my god....you spent over that much? your insane....i beat you can beat an rt viper couldnt you

Lets say 400hp Vettes aren't a problem...

Congrats Mike!!!!

Hey Mike post this over on FJ when you get a chance.

omg....you could almost pull with my dad in that car.......damn.....

Wow!! Great job!! I seriously couldn't sleep last night in anticipation of seeing this dyno. So looking back, I'm assuming that this is on 93 gas and its with the 15lb pulley and without the 5.7 pulley or no? At any rate, congrats, good luck in ROTM and have fun with that!!!

Thats pretty sweet man, Especially for a supercharger. Heck it's sweet for any setup. Great job man.

i can wait till you get some track times- thats a beautiful thing and rudel you are a pioneer and champion for the focus fanatic community--i also gave you props for rotm

Thanks guys, it was blast. I was hoping some guys might come buy for the runs, but thats ok. I heard there was a track in Savannah, GA, which is an hour away from where I am. I'm going to search for it while the weather is great here.

Im going to say something no one has ever seen me say , Im Impressed by the way this thing feels , It pulls like a train for a SC , this car will give a turbo charged Focus a very hard time

Tom

LOL I LOVE THIS^^^!!!!

anyways, im very excited for 2 reasons:

number 1, your car is done, and its absolutly amazing.
number 2, your car is done, and now its time for Tom to make my car top priority instead of yours.... hehe

anyways, congrats. you officially have the most unique focus ive ever seen, or anyone has ever seen for that matter.... SVT'd, 2.3'd, PC'd, LSD'd, 300+whp BEAST. it doesnt get much better than that. i mean it could, but not much...lol ROTM here you come![thumb]

hopefully, when Tom is done with my car on the dyno in a week or two, ill be seeing HP numbers like yours on high boost, but with TQ to match!!!

-Brian

Now thats the first 2.3 stroker is done #2 is next which is, tada me. Tom, I'll be checking my emails everyday untill I hear from you.

Wow!! Great job!! I seriously couldn't sleep last night in anticipation of seeing this dyno. So looking back, I'm assuming that this is on 93 gas and its with the 15lb pulley and without the 5.7 pulley or no? At any rate, congrats, good luck in ROTM and have fun with that!!!

That was with the 5.7 crank the 2.55 blower = 15psi and the blower was running out

Tom

Yes i feel much better about building the rest now that this one is over 1000 miles on it now and it seems that rest of the stock parts can flow with the larger engine so the others will not start going togather

I cannot wait to see one of these 2.3 strokers turbocharged and NA

Tom

Those are sick numbers, but thats a lot of money. I guess you get what you pay for. Tom do you feel that Rudel's setup is maxed out or can you run the psi up and make more power? From what I undestand the PC can go to 19psi. Am I wrong about that?

the c-2 procharger can hit 20 psi and i can verify that one as I have a blown head gasket to prove it. I have the 5.9" crank pulley from cfm and hit 20psi at 7500 rpms. I wasn't tuned for this and blew a head gasket doing this(dumb mistake but it'll all be worth it in the end). I'm going to be haveing Tom tune my car once it's back together and we'll see how much of an improvment a 5.9" pulley is over a 5.75" damper pulley that i used to have on when i was making 16psi. At that point i'll be sure to let Rudel know if it's worth it for him to upgrade if he wants more power. Oh yeah and according to procharger the SC can hit 24 psi but of corse it all depends on how well your engine flows.

Right now we are getting close to over spinning the C-2 already. There's a bit room left if a custom blower is made.

Was it 64 or 74K rpms were spinning Tom?

That 20Lbs would be sweet, and I would love to see the torque with that 5.9" and such. I'm going to get some pictures to today, so hold on for a few! [:D]

Thanks again Tom!

if you have the 5.7 and the 2.55 your spinning to 74K the blower can go to 80k
which means you could slap the 5.9" pulley on and still pull the car to roughly 7400rpms and be safe as far as blower speed. Then if you factor in the fact that you probably have a bit of belt slipage in there as well you could almost pull it to 7500 and not worry. I'm planing on haveing tom pull my car all the way to 7400 when he tunes mine. I was going to go to 7500 but i looked at my chart again and i don't feel like risking it thats an extra 1500 over recommended max blower speed and I don't feel like sending mine back in again.

One thing i can honestly say however is the c-2 blower does seem to pull very nicely. You made a good decision going with that insted of the regular c-1. I know I like mine.

Actually what rpm are you spining your to right now. It looked like you were going to around 72-7300 which in that case befor you factor in any belt slipage your spining to around 75-76k

that's crazy....the motor is limited by the blower.......who'd a thunk'd it be that powerfull....usually it's "i had to keep the boost low B/C of internals".........lol....

Yeah it really sucks. Perhaps in the future we could replace the propeller with a billet one that will not melt at high revs. 77 or 78K RPM range would be even better.

We will see in the future.

So HaveBlue, would this qualify for a new excuse? [:D]

Every one needs to keep in mind that we are feeding an extra 20 inches of engine every revolution and this uses up the air made from the SC much faster , after talking to the PC engineers we are right at the edge of the envelope of the air the SC can move , we went from about 5800 to 7200 with no more gain in boost yet the SC went up in RPM , That tells me the SC is out of breath from feeding the extra inches

Yes the SC-2 is good to 80,000 RPM , do you have any idea how fast that is ? According to PC the tips on the end of the impellers could actually start heating to the point of glowing and it would internally eat itself at the 80,000 RPM point , I was warned about NOT going to this point

Were at 76,000RPM now at 7300 RPM and i would like to see Rudel shift at 6500 , were testing new waters already with all this lets not have an impeller eat itself , and they will, I have seen it and it isnt pritty , Kills the whole SC unit

Tom

so what did the ProCharger guys say when you called them and basically said "so we maxed out your C-2, and need more RPM, got a better one?" [hihi]

they must've wondered how much power you were gonna STOP at....lol

I've talked to procharger on countless occasions trying to get them to make a unit that pushes more air or something along those lines. They replyed saying that they can't make custom units for those purposes. I really wish they could. Maybe it's one of those supply and demand type things where if there is enough of a demand for a bigger unit then they will make something bigger. I know right now I'm almost wanting a bigger unit and I havn't even gotten mine tuned yet. I do know that it might not be as much power as i want. I also asked if they have a unit that isn't that much bigger than the c-1 c-2 unit and they said they don't really have anything.

throw a P1C on there.....[hihi]

have we got pics of the 2.3 procharged stroker installed in the car?

Well, Ive seen Rudel's and the other one Tom had on display back in the spring... you cant tell any difference between it and a stock motor just by looking (from the outside) and theres very little visual difference on the inside.

thats awesome seriously a 330HP SC focus...

I like how it sounds rump rump rump [headbang]

LOL....That more like the sound when you rumpped my car Cat. [:D]

I can't to get my car back. For those that do not know, my engine over heated because the radiator crack in a motorcycle accident. I'm not sure what exactly may be broken, but the compression is in the 80s. Yikes! Hopefully it's just rings and I need nothing more. I'm using the CGI block and Tom's forged pistons. We'll see soon enough.

Tom told me that while he's on vacation, the car's engine should be being taken out, inspected and have new parts on order, and when he get's back, the parts can be installed.

Along with that, I am hoping to get my FMIC installed, and possible mount my 70mm TB I have. [deviltail]

Give it about a month 1/2 maybe.....anyways...Someone wanted pics?

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_ProChargerSC_02_b.jpg

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_ProChargerSC_04_b.jpg

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_ProChargerSC_10_b.jpg

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_ProChargerSC_12_b.jpg

http://www.vmfa-531.com/Ford_Focus_SVT/2-3_Stroker_ProChargerSC_11_b.jpg

WOW!
I want

Rudel, don't forget then I'm waiting that 65mm TB from u ;-))))))))))

We'll see what happens! Hopefully it can been pulled off. I really don't think it's necessary to have a custom intake manifold built for 70mm TB. Perhaps a work around: a spacer or porting job on the actual intake so that the TB can go full WOT with no interference.