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Old 05-22-2013, 06:47 PM   #391
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyZ View Post
Everyone here is right and everyone is wrong. The three top end dealers are Goodyear, Michelin and Pirelli and they are marketed that way. You also have Dunlop, Yokahama and Bridgestone which are middle of the road, and Falken, Kelly and Kumho which are bargain tires. Every company makes good tires and every company makes crap tires. Some are unfairly crap because they are used in a manner other than their design and have poor performance ( ie. Eagle F1's in the snow). If you are rating the OE tires that came on your car you are judging middle of the road tires that the auto co. got in bulk to work for the masses not the individual enthusiest.
I run dedicated summer tires and dedicated winter tires. Eagle F1 GS-D2's 17" in the summer and Eagle Ultra Grips 16" in the winter.
If you run all season tires which most of you have mentioned you are getting average performance of everything and exceptional nothing so don't expect it!
**One last word of advice - Your tires are the single best saftey feature you have on your car. If they don't stick you don't go, you don't stop you don't have control. All from something that is mearly held to your car buy air! Think about that the next time your looking for the cheapest tire you can get!

Sorry to have to correct you on this. Top three tire companies are Michelin, Bridgestone and Goodyear. Anything other than that you are getting in to second and third tier tires. There is no such thing as a good tire or a crap tire. Tires are a set of compromises they are designed to accomplish a certain goal, some for longevity, some for fuel mileage some from highway, on-off road, cut chip resistance, mud, snow. They are not built in good and bad tiers. You are also incorrect when speaking of the O.E. tires which are original equipment tires. Many people are confused by what this means and how these tires are developed. These types of tires are spec'd out by the vehicle manufacturers. Currently all manufacturers are working to meet cafe standards set by our government for fuel mileage. The tires are built with a very low rolling resistance which in terms of fuel mileage is awesome. However these tires will not get you the mileage longevity of a tire that is rated to 60K + miles. Just as tires that come with tread mileage warranties will not have the ability to get you the same fuel mileage that an O.E. tire will or a tire that is designed for better fuel economy. The vehicle manufacturers did not go to tire companies and say hey! give me the cheapest thing you got. All manufacturers are trying to get lighter and better fuel mileage and thats what O.E. tires are designed to do.
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