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Old 08-01-2012, 05:25 PM   #85433
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Originally Posted by beat3rfocus View Post
Pb blaster, wd40, etc, towels, kitty litter, msds sheets, safety glasses, gloves. There is a ton to worry about, enforce. Also what ase mechanic will sit around all day, making minimum wage until help is needed?

Also someone rents a bay for 3 hours, you have it booked immediately after, person is waiting, current user is 20 min plus clean up from being done, who wins that battle? You need time between each session to go thru tool boxes, inspect tools, clean bays, eyc, but it is money lost if bay isnt rented out.
O no, I agree with you there.

PB Blaster/WD40/oil dry would be available for purchase if needed. similar to at a racetrack. if you make an excessive mess you will be charged for it.

there would be sinks available with cleaning stuff. that's similar to a public bathroom but more expensive. its a monthly expense.

safety glasses will be required in the shop at all times by all staff/customers no exceptions.

who says he has to make min wage? if you budget for a proper salary for ASE mechanics everything would be fine. on that note: I have several friends who are ASE mechanics that can't find higher paying jobs at a dealership/high end place so they are working at discounttire/quickilube type places make $10-12 an hour. finding a mechanic or 4 will be do-able if you are willing to pay a fair amount.

thats a great point about scheduling. you'd have to have a minimum of an hour between appointments for each person if you were doing scheduling or do a first come first serve setup...that bears some more consideration, thanks for mentioning this one!

I agree you'll need re-stocking/cleaning time as well which bears consideration.

Several thoughts I have on the tool issue:

1) when you sign in you turn over your drivers license (like you may have to do on a test drive) and you are given 10 poker chips with the stall number on them. you may redeem each chip for a tool from the tool crib. if you need more than 10 you have to bring a tool back to get a different one. when you're done you return all your tools and get your license back. If tools are broke you have to pay for them.
a bit of a hassle but not that terrible....this is how the shop worked when I was taking auto classes at KCTC.

2) you pay a cash/charge deposit on the toolbox, you get the deposit back when the tools box is returned. molded plastic tool boxes like the craftsman sets come in make it very easy to see if anything is missing or not.

even still, accidents will happen, tools will get lost/broken you'd need at least 1-2 extra sets of tools compared to amount of stalls so that if something breaks you can put it back into the set and order/exchange for spares as time allows.

I agree this sort of business does have various unique challenges/things to overcome but Schools/tech centers manage it.......regular shops manage it (although they have actual employees) rental places manage it. I'm sure advanced autozone actually has some sort of waiver in place that you sign when you "rent" tools from them although I've never read the receipt to be sure.

you'd basically have to treat every "customer" as a new "employee" for it to be successful.

plus at this point I'm not talking about having 30 stalls and being a free for all. it'd be a very controlled workplace type environment with 3-6 stalls. I'd have to give it some more thought but I'd also consider having a 3-4 person limit per car because honestly more than 2 people for one car and you're just getting in each others way at that point.

keep up the great advice/ideas guys!
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