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Old 06-06-2012, 10:02 AM   #87
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Originally Posted by amoosenamedhank View Post

You're playing dumb, you refuse to recognize that Ford's numbers are obviously deflated. If you actually can't accept that, that means you opening believe this platform only suffers a 7.5% drivetrain loss.

Those are really your only two options. Do we know the exact engine hp? No we don't, but as Tbone was trying to point out to you, FocusBoys number were no more or less accurate to the real world than yours. You were faulting someone and your reason was just as flawed.
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Originally Posted by kylesvt720 View Post

Yes we all know that the stock motor is probably underrated, but we have no way of proving it, or how much. These are the facts. It should also be noted that GTIs with DSG have far less parastic loss than a traditional automatic, hence the better fuel economy, (and better than manual GTIs). Using that logic a DCT should have less parasitic loss than a manual.
Originally Posted by amoosenamedhank View Post
The 2013 GT500 is in the same boat. Ford rates the engine hp at 650 but it was recently dynoed at 614rwhp. That's only 5% drivetrain loss..... So either Ford has discovered a miracle drivetrain which seems to defy the laws of physics or Ford is in the game of under rating their hp figures.

Which are you more likely to believe?
Originally Posted by kylesvt720 View Post
I totally agree that's probably the case. I'm just saying there is no way to prove it without pulling a stock engine and putting it on an engine dyno. (Which is the only accurate way to measure an engine's output anyway.) Chassis dynos show gains, but aren't the most accurate way of figuring out true horsepower. He gained, 27whp or so, which is awesome. Probably could get 5 more with a tune.
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