Originally Posted by me2000
It was strange bc the the true car certificate only said $150 under invoice and the Internet guy gave me 300 below without me saying a thing.
Right, mine was $425 below invoice (invoice that includes FDAF), but I had to press to get all the fees. Just make sure if you haven't done so already get that final out the door price in writing, even if it's just in email. They notoriously like to downplay and ignore some even exist until contract time if hasn't previously been discussed in depth.