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Old 10-01-2009, 10:46 AM   #75
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Originally Posted by Focusalaska View Post
As I said i my last post " good v6 kill " you said yourself you didn't see under the hood. The guy was leading you on over how he had a v8. Unless you have proof, than you beat a v6. With the SLOWEST V8 LT1 you are still pushing 275 HP / 325TQ. If it was a 1997+ LT1 the have 10 more HP / 10 TQ. All cars from 1993 -2002 are 4th gen cars. Third gen were 1982-1992. Believe me i know my cars. NO stock focus with SRI only will beat a 1993+ F-Body. ( unless it is only running on 6 cylinders )
stop being a douche
there is no reason for steve to lie about what he raced, he saw it, its in a video, so get over it

Originally Posted by tpivette View Post
Wow... there is soooooo much misinformation about GM V8s in this thread. let me see if i can sort some of it out

the 91/92 firebirds (which is what you raced) only had a few engines offered those years. heres the breakdown of power output and performance at the track:

- 2.8L V6 (LH0) : 140hp/170tq, 17s or worse
- 5.0L V8 (L03) : 170hp/240tq, low 16s
- 5.0L V8 (LB9) : 205hp/295tq w auto, low 15s
- 5.0L V8 (LB9) : 225hp/300tq w manual, high 14s
- 5.7L V8 (L98) : 235hp/335tq auto only, mid 14s

after seeing your 1/8 mile time (10.6), doing a 1/4 mile conversion puts you at roughly a 16.4. as you can see from the above chart, it would seem as though you beat a V6 firebird. theres really no way you couldve beat a V8 equipped thirdgen by as much as you did unless the car was totally clapped out (which you said it sounded nice so it really couldnt have been). you now also know the reason why he wouldnt pop his hood... hed been caught lying about what he had

moving on to LT1s. my ex GFs bone stock, 112k mile 94' Formula went 14.0 at 100mph. LT1s are easy low 14 sec cars... most can crack 13s with good drivers 100% stock. unless the guy behind the wheel doesnt know what hes doing, or the opti is bad or something, theres just no way anyone is running high 14s in one. certainly a mid 16 sec Focus couldnt have beaten one either

anyway, im not trying to take anything away from your win, as you obviously beat the firebird. just wanting to shed some light on the 3rdgen/4thgen cars
those are 1/4 mile times.... 1/8 mile is different.....

i don't doubt that the car in the video probably would have killed him in a 1/4 mile, it probably didn't get into its power band on such a short track.... the focus isn't a straight lane car, but with the d23 the short track provides a nice advantage w/ the hp/tq combo those cars have.... the sub '93 bird he raced is 1 - heavier, which means that it takes longer to get up and going and 2 - if it was auto then it fails at life anyway!!!!

i don't see why you guys are trying to bash his win, FJ is over there 8===>
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