yes if they take the stupid line and follow the track edge.i stay in the middle w/steering wheel about on dotted lines by the bridge and straight down to ten. a little brake and onto the straight. i was suprised how well the little bugger took the hill in 4th. it might be a little faster in 3rd, but much smoother in 4th. every less downshift means two less shifts. and third was comfortable in 5, shift to 4th before seven. my buddy rob talked me into trying it and he was right. i used to be in 4th on front straight till timing tower, now im in 5th by pit out. btw, the idiot in the m3 was going into turn8 from the left side of the track. also caught (almost tailended) a poorly driven gt3 porsche going into one. money doesnt mean talent. and vinny thanks again for the 40's comment.